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Topic: Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 886 of 1310 (768114)
09-07-2015 9:37 PM
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Reply to: Message 885 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 9:30 PM
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Re: Evidence?
Without scripture, how will you know what the evidence is? Easy--test it against the real world. See how well it stands up.
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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JonF
Member (Idle past 199 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 887 of 1310 (768115)
09-07-2015 9:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 880 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 5:43 PM
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Yup, incredibly immature. And extremely apropos for this thread.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4452 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.5
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Message 888 of 1310 (768116)
09-07-2015 10:11 PM
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Today is the first time I paid any attention to this thread. Ater a random sampling, all I can say is WOW! 880+ posts......
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 889 of 1310 (768118)
09-07-2015 10:54 PM
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Reply to: Message 880 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 5:43 PM
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Yes, a bathtub! They are all over West Texas with la Virgen de Guadalupe inside, looking out on and presumably interceding for the scorched landscape. Come down and see some - maybe you can get Holy Spirit Vehicles out of their images, like you do for dust out of focus.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 890 of 1310 (768119)
09-07-2015 11:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 886 by Coyote
09-07-2015 9:37 PM
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Re: Evidence?
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Easy--test it against the real world. See how well it stands up.
Not so easy...the evidence is of another world and not this world. Without scripture, you would not be able to understand a spirit such as the Holy Spirit. You are deceiving yourself if you believe otherwise.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 886 by Coyote, posted 09-07-2015 9:37 PM | | Coyote has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 891 by Coyote, posted 09-07-2015 11:23 PM | | ScottRP has replied |
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2137 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 891 of 1310 (768121)
09-07-2015 11:23 PM
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Reply to: Message 890 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 11:11 PM
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Re: Evidence?
Coyote writes: quote:
Easy--test it against the real world. See how well it stands up.
Not so easy...the evidence is of another world and not this world. Without scripture, you would not be able to understand a spirit such as the Holy Spirit. You are deceiving yourself if you believe otherwise.
And without being able to test your belief against the real world--against the evidence--all you have to go on is belief. How do you know your belief is accurate? (Other than belief???) When other believers have different beliefs, how do you discern which is correct? You're back to belief again, with no evidence against which to measure. Pretty sloppy way to run a universe...
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3992 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 7.5
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Tanypteryx writes: Today is the first time I paid any attention to this thread. Ater a random sampling, all I can say is WOW! 880+ posts...... It keeps him out of mischief elsewhere.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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NoNukes
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It keeps him out of mischief elsewhere. Yes. Imagine if this stuff starting showing up in between our pictures of dragonflies, landscapes, and sea otters.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 894 of 1310 (768141)
09-08-2015 12:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 891 by Coyote
09-07-2015 11:23 PM
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Re: Evidence?
If you do not believe that God is real you may never believe the evidence is real either. You may have blocked yourself from ever seeing the truth and already condemned yourself to hell. Do you believe this is wise?. I have seen Jesus. I have heard the Father's voice. I have seen the Holy Spirit. I have seen an angel three times. I have seen two demons. I have witnessed powers of the invisible spirit world. I have seen and talked to the dead. And I know heaven and hell are real. Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 895 of 1310 (768143)
09-08-2015 12:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 894 by ScottRP
09-08-2015 12:05 PM
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Re: Evidence?
ScottRP writes: I have seen Jesus. I have heard the Father's voice. I have seen the Holy Spirit. I have seen an angel three times. I have seen two demons. I have witnessed powers of the invisible spirit world. I have seen and talked to the dead. And I know heaven and hell are real.
I shook hands with Red Skelton.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 896 of 1310 (768145)
09-08-2015 12:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 895 by ringo
09-08-2015 12:07 PM
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Re: Evidence?
I am a Christian Ringo and would not lie about such things. I bear witness to the truth. I have the Spirit within me.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 897 of 1310 (768146)
09-08-2015 12:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 896 by ScottRP
09-08-2015 12:12 PM
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Re: Evidence?
ScottRP writes: I am a Christian Ringo and would not lie about such things. I bear witness to the truth.
I'm not suggesting that you're lying. I'm not lying about Red Skelton either. He was wearing a tan suit. What I'm saying is that you wouldn't recognize the truth if it sat down beside you in church.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 898 of 1310 (768148)
09-08-2015 12:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 897 by ringo
09-08-2015 12:16 PM
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Re: Evidence?
On the contrary, it is you who has failed to recognize the Holy Spirit and chariots of God.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 443 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 899 of 1310 (768151)
09-08-2015 12:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 898 by ScottRP
09-08-2015 12:21 PM
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Re: Evidence?
ScottRP writes: On the contrary, it is you who has failed to recognize the Holy Spirit and chariots of God.
Says the guy who has failed to recognize dust. When you hear hoof-beats, think horses not unicorns. When you see dust, think dust.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 178 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 900 of 1310 (768155)
09-08-2015 1:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 899 by ringo
09-08-2015 12:43 PM
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Re: Evidence?
I show you photographs and a video of the Holy Spirit and chariots of God and all you see is dust. You have failed to see the truth.
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