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GDR
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Message 46 of 75 (775657)
01-03-2016 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Straggler
01-03-2016 3:32 AM


Re: I'm responding to the "hot topics" issue.
Straggler writes:
I would put forward climate change and gun advocacy as examples of those in denial about facts in much the same way that the tobacco industry was previously.
Hi Stragg
Just curious if you view this as an example of your objectivity?
(Not that I disagree with the views expressed.)

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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GDR
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Message 58 of 75 (775769)
01-04-2016 7:56 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Straggler
01-04-2016 4:32 AM


Re: I'm responding to the "hot topics" issue.
Straggler writes:
I am as prone to personal bias as anyone else.
But in terms of slowly mounting evidence and the sort of resistance that evidence is met with there are stark similarities between the tobacco health issue, climate change and the gun issue.
If the statistics and evidence suggested (for example) that nations awash with guns were less violent, safer and relatively free from crime then ultimately I would have to accept that evidence whatever I may want to believe.
Ultimately time will tell. But on these issues I am pretty confident that my position is not just a result of personal bias but is actually evidentially sound. But 'the truth can always be questioned' and, like the tobacco issue, the facts will eventually become increasingly obvious to all. Whichever 'side' they support.
I wasn't actually questioning your reasoning or even the correctness of your view. I just thought that there was just a touch of irony in your post in a thread titled "Are you objective".

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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GDR
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Message 65 of 75 (775783)
01-04-2016 9:27 PM
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01-04-2016 8:54 PM


Re: Impartial vs objective
Straggler writes:
I think your comment raises an important point about objectivity and impartiality. Does the fact I obviously hold a position on the subjects in question mean that I fail the objectivity test? Maybe. But I would argue that impartiality and objectivity are different.
What I saw in the way you worded your post was that your mind was made up already. The implication, as I saw it, in your post was that someone with a different perspective, or maybe even new evidence wouldn't make any difference, and that you were no longer objective.
However, I know you don't think that way and I meant as just a bit of humour.

He has told you, O man, what is good ; And what does the LORD require of you But to do justice, to love kindness, And to walk humbly with your God.
Micah 6:8

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