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Author Topic:   The Great Creationist Fossil Failure
Pressie
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Message 414 of 1163 (787662)
07-20-2016 6:39 AM
Reply to: Message 413 by Faith
07-20-2016 6:35 AM


Re: Why the Fossil Order Doesn't Matter
I can see many 'layers' there. So, according to your own photo the Jurassic is not a "layer", then?

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Pressie
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Message 454 of 1163 (787730)
07-21-2016 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 453 by Faith
07-21-2016 6:38 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
This one was funny.
Faith writes:
Is that your theory then, they lived in the mountains?
It's easy Faith. Some dinosaurs lived in mountains. Others didn't.
Just like the big cats, today, Faith. Some live in mountainous areas, some live on the great plains. Some live in America. Some live in Africa. Some live in the Andes. Some live in the Himalayas, some live in the deserts of and also the jungles of plains of India on the same sub continent. All at the same time.!
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Pressie
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Message 455 of 1163 (787732)
07-21-2016 7:08 AM
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07-21-2016 6:38 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
This one was funny, too.
Faith writes:
Also, aren't dinosauria supposed to need lots of vegetation to eat
Can one person be so uneducated? Have you ever looked at the teeth some dino's had?
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Message 527 of 1163 (788048)
07-25-2016 7:02 AM
Reply to: Message 513 by Faith
07-24-2016 9:29 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Faith writes:
Today, yes, but the strata could not possibly have been formed in such small bodies of water with such distinctive boundaries.
Yes, we sure can and we do. Lake Erie for, example.
Faith writes:
The strata are commonly enormous, huge, flat flat flat thick thick thick blocks of rock
You mean like we find being deposited in the Kalahari and Mozambique Channel today?
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Message 530 of 1163 (788099)
07-26-2016 6:41 AM
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07-26-2016 4:45 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Faith writes:
THE strata is of course a different thing from strata formed in a peanut butter jar.
Geological time periods are not "strata" or "layers" or anything like that, Faith.

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Message 531 of 1163 (788100)
07-26-2016 6:42 AM
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07-26-2016 4:45 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Faith writes:
THE strata is of course a different thing from strata formed in a peanut butter jar.
Geological time periods are not strata or "layers" or anything like that, Faith.
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Message 548 of 1163 (788208)
07-27-2016 7:07 AM
Reply to: Message 547 by Tangle
07-27-2016 6:34 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Actually, there's no such thing as 'The' Geological Column.
There can be 'A' Geological Column under your house or 'A' Geological Column of an area or 'A' Geological Column for a region. And those Geological Columns are different all over the world. Geological Columns refer to rocks.
The Geological time scale refers to Systems or Eons or Eras or Periods or Epochs. Not rocks.
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Message 553 of 1163 (788244)
07-28-2016 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 549 by NoNukes
07-27-2016 5:41 PM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Is that correct? Perhaps the question is one of semantics.
Not really. It's a question of how the term is used or not used by those hundreds of thousands of persons doing the natural science called geology for a living. Creationists never tell the truth about what the natural science of geology entails. They make up their own definition and then pretend that it is "scientific".
For geologists it's very easy, though. The Cambrian is not a layer. The Ordovician is not a layer. The Silurian is not a layer. Same with all those other Periods.
For geologists in every country it's actually very easy to figure out that the Cambrian happened before the Ordovician and that the Ordovician occurred before the Silurian did. Those are Periods. Not rock layers.
Oh, and contrary to what the creationists call "science', rocks dating from the Cambrian are found in lots of locations all over the world. And rocks from the Ordovician are found on the surface in lots of locations all over the world. And rocks from the Silurian outcrop in lots of locations all over the world.
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Message 555 of 1163 (788246)
07-28-2016 9:18 AM
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07-28-2016 8:34 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Faith is convinced that the Cambrian is a 'slab' of rock, the Ordovician is a 'slab' of rock, the Silurian is a 'slab' of rock, etc. That's it for Faith. I don't think that it is worth even trying to have a rational conversation with Faith.

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Message 557 of 1163 (788248)
07-28-2016 9:44 AM
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07-28-2016 9:29 AM


Re: From rock slabs to epeiric seas, there's no room for living things
Thanks for reminding me. But, the audience sometimes can be shown that someone could have absolutely stupid, ridiculous ideas.
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Message 574 of 1163 (790633)
09-02-2016 6:23 AM
Reply to: Message 573 by Faith
09-02-2016 2:44 AM


Re: More amazing sorting
Faith writes:
I have the usual guesses about the original location of the various creatures and their different abilities to flee the Flood, and that may explain some of it, but that's it.
So you think that all the plants fled the flood, along with all the fish and snails and elephants and lions and aardvarks and humans when the Barberton Sequence was deposited? The plants ran away?

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Pressie
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Message 730 of 1163 (793922)
11-07-2016 4:27 AM
Reply to: Message 728 by mindspawn
11-07-2016 3:35 AM


Re: THE GREAT EVOLUTION FOSSIL FAILURE
mindspawn writes:
That argument is from evolutionary assumption...
Nope. You suffer the same disease all creationists suffer from. Not knowing enough. In science, those relevant scientists have evidence for their assumptions.
Also, biological evolution is not an assumption. It's a fact-based conclusion.
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Pressie
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Message 731 of 1163 (793923)
11-07-2016 5:30 AM
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11-07-2016 3:35 AM


Re: THE GREAT EVOLUTION FOSSIL FAILURE
mindspawn writes:
That argument is from evolutionary assumption....
Nope. It's not assumption. Seeing the header of this threat, have a look at http://www.stratigraphy.org/...t/ChronostratChart2016-10.pdf. Fossils.
Those different colours you see are not rock "layers" at all. They are time periods. What different organisms lived together at the same time.
Read the whole website. It's from the International Committee on Stratigraphy. Read exactly how the international geological commutiny get to their conclusions. In there you'll read what the Cambrian System/Period is. In there you will also read about the Cambrian. You can read about what the fossils found in the Fortunian, Stages 2, 3, 4, 5, the Drumian, Guzhangian, Paibian, Jiangshan, and Stage 10 Stages/ Ages are. Together with the absolute dates.
You will also read about stratigraphy, Biozones, etc.
Evolution is not an assumption. It's a conclusion.
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Pressie
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Message 733 of 1163 (793927)
11-07-2016 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 732 by mindspawn
11-07-2016 6:42 AM


Re: THE GREAT EVOLUTION FOSSIL FAILURE
This one is funny, too.
mindspawn writes:
... you say evolution has been proved it, but there exists no core evidence for the theory of evolution
He-he-he. "Core evidence". It's like a "Golden Bullet". It seems as if mindspawn really is not too bright when it comes to how science works.

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Pressie
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Message 735 of 1163 (793929)
11-07-2016 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 734 by mindspawn
11-07-2016 6:54 AM


Re: THE GREAT EVOLUTION FOSSIL FAILURE
minspawn writes:
Looking at your chart, yes there are geological layers.
Wrong in your first sentence. Those are not layers.
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