Trump's order on immigration and the wacko liberal response

You say my claim needs fact checking. But you didn't do any fact checking, you just asserted that it must be so because you think it must be so. I listed five or six instances I'm aware of in which it was Trump haters assaulting Trump supporters; I'm not aware of any on the other side. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I've read the articles and seen the videos for every instance I posted.You would be right if you guessed I'm not going to check out your claims because it costs me a lot to check things out. My eyes can't take much of it and I save them for things I really have to check out. I'll say only that one of your examples sounds like something I heard happened at a Trump rally before the election, when Soros gangs were trying to disrupt things. Not something that happened after the election, which is what we were talking about.

Mod, I skimmed your post after writing one that took a lot out of me that was then dismissed in a few words that broke my heart. I looked at yours and couldn't see a shred of relevance in it. Sorry/But on another brief run through it I see it ISN'T relevant because the subject was executive orders on IMMIGRATION, not on just anything. Again sorry. I posted the law that makes Trump's action perfectly legal. I wasn't discussing anything about the tension you are talking about, just that his action was legal on this subject of banning immigration if he judges the admission of aliens to be dangerous to the country. With such a law on the books the attempts to prevent it can only be from illegal political motives. The only one being called a despotic tyrant in this instance is Trump, again for the sake of disruption on political grounds.Anyway, it was on the subject of immigration restriction on which I understood Obama to have acted in a similar way that I said I don't recall his needing to be defended because nobody was protesting it.I'm afraid I didn't read your post carefully enough to get what you were saying about gun control. Sorry.

No, I said what I meant. It is the religion of Islam that promotes all those radical movements IF a Muslim wants to follow that part of the religion. It's there on the books if he is so inclined. Fortunately most Muslims aren't so inclined, but there is always the potential for that BECAUSE the violent jihadist directives ARE in their sacred books.There is no such thing as a Christian terrorist acting on Christian principles. Any such behavior is CONTRARY to Christian principles, which is not the case with Islam.The thing is nobody wants to face the fact that a religion that is held by such a huge number of people really has the written intent of conquering the entire world, and is willing to do it by subjugation and annihilation of nonmembers of that religion, which it is playing out all the time around the world for anyone willing to see it, and whatever lies it takes to accomplish those things. It is a scary thought and it scares people into cowardly lies in the attempt to placate and appease the giant.There are plenty of nonviolent Muslims fortunately, but that doesn't change the fact that it is the religion itself, its sacred teachings themselves and the leaders who follow those teachings strictly, that promotes the violence of those who do become radicalized and violent.You can't put your head in the sand on this one and expect it to go away. If the problem isn't directly confronted it's going to roll right over you and the entire world. You have to see it as it is and tell it like it is, denounce it as it is and not be intimidated by their hurt feelings and being offended, before they have the power to enforce their views. Many Muslims don't even know that their religion teaches what it teaches. They need to be made to understand it.===================
There is no evidence of increase in violence on both pro and anti Trump supporters as a result of the election. I've given examples of five instances of Trump haters attacking Trump supporters, you've given none.
==========================I found my copy of Philistine, the book about Islam that I've mentioned a number of times that explains Islam as I've been characterizing it. But that information is out there in many forms, it's just that too many people don't want to believe it, put their heads in the sand and make nice with the wolf that hates us and intends to devour us. The author lives in Israel, or did, and most of the book focuses on the politics of Islam's determination to rid the world of Israel. But there is also discussion of the Islamic design to subjugate the entire world for Allah. As I mentioned earlier in the thread I suspect that Trump's efforts to return the nation to sane policies may not work because the nation is under judgment by God, and until we do away with the causes of that we aren't going to get out from under that judgment. Which means causes like abortion and normalizing homosexuality and legalizing gay marriage and many other issues dear to the heart of the Left. Trump is not taking those on but focusing only on the practical projects that should protect the nation, protect it I've finally realized, from God's judgments against us. Since the Left isn't going to give an inch on its sin-liberation politics which is the main reason we are under judgment, I don't see any way for Trump's projects to succeed for long. That means we'll eventually be overtaken by Islam, which appears to be God's main instrument of judgment against us.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

The Constitution does not apply to noncitizens of America. I can hardly believe anyone would make such a claim. There is no such thing as a right for noncitizens to enter this country.I will not go back and read anything on your orders. It is your responsibility to quote whatever you want me to read.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

That is a ridiculous misreading.

THE CONSTITUTION WAS WRITTEN FOR CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE TO TREAT NONCITIZENS WITH INJUSTICE OR CRUELTY FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD. THE POINT REMAINS THAT THERE IS NO RIGHT WHATEVER OF NONCITIZENS TO ENTER THIS COUNTRY. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I said there is no such thing as a Christian terrorist ACTING ON CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES. ALL your examples can be shown to violate Christian principles.Catholicism often violates Christian principles. Northern Ireland's problems are all caused by the Vatican, AGAINST CHRISTIAN PRincipleS as so much Catholicism does. They don't regard the Bible as the authority, they are quite willing to contradict the Bible with their own man-made laws. THERE IS NOTHING CHRISTIAN ABOUT CATHOLIC POLICIES THAT COME DOWN FROM THE VATICAN. I did a post at my blog on the problems in Ireland a while back, maybe I can find it.The Crusades may or may not be a "terrorist" action. But it's also a CATHOLIC action, not based on anything Christian.I don't know enough about the English Civil War to comment.The Gunpowder Plot was the work of JESUITS.The Ku Klux Klan is clearly in violation of Christian Principles.So are pogroms, which by the way were also the work of Catholicism, I don't know if exclusively, but certainly predominantly.In every case you are talking about a violation of Christian principles.. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I'm proposing that people come to recognize the reality of Islam. You are refusing to recognize it. When you finally do recognize it, if that ever happens, then we can talk about other proposals.

Sure I addressed "those people" becausae as I keep saying there is NO WAY TO COMMIT SUCH ACTS ON THE BASIS OF CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES> They are either dissembling or they support a version of Islam that denies some of their scriptures, or they are outright lying, which is an accepted Islamic tactic, also on their books.I've heard dozens of times now that there are one hundred and nine verses in the Koran that specifically call for attacks on Jews, Christoans and other "infidels."Get a clue, Theodoric, you're supporting a pack of lies.So I'll say the sources where I'm getting my information, there's lots of it out there, are more expert on Islam than they are, yes.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Anything to obscure the truth. There is nothing in the Bible that can rightly be used to support such actions. Nothing. Zip, zilch, nada. But there are 109 verses in the Koran that tell the reader to kill Jews, Christians and other infidels.You guys are going to lie yourselves into some serious danger by denying the truth and supporting a gigantic wolf that is salivating over your heads.

Lies lies lies, how do you keep it up? Why do you put credence in someone who says it doesn't matter how wrong a person is about the Bible, it's the Bible's fault if they misread it. Such sleazy stuff is just anti-Christian propaganda and you slurp it up while TOLERATING THE ACTUAL SOURCES OF MURDER AND VIOLENCE IN THIS WORLD. If someone gets the idea of taking off people's heads from reading "A Tale of Two Cities" is that the novel's fault?The Bible RFEPORTS on many horrific incidents in the ancient past, some of them commanded by God. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE VERSE THAT TELLS THE READER TO COMMIT VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND AGAINST ANYBODY EVER AND PLENTY THAT COMMAND THE EXACT OPPOSITE. But obviously you can't read and/or you are deceived or dishonest.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Coretta King was misled. Sessions has a good civil rights record, and plenty of others have said so.

I said THERE IS NOT A SINGLE VERSE IN THE BIBLE THAT TELLS THE READER TO COMMIT VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND AGAINST ANYBODY EVER.THE READER, THE READER, THE READER.I said it is all REPORTS of what happened HISTORICALLY. The Ezekiel passage is a REPORT about what particular men were told to do in a particular historical context, and in fact it is a report of a VISION, not even a reality. It does NOT address the READER!!!!!abe: And all such commands are clearly understood within the context of the passage or even the whole Bible, as God's judgment for particular sins that are clearly spelled out at length. The Koran just tells any and all Muslims to kill anybody at all who just happens not to be a Muslim.On the other hand it IS the READER of the Koran who is told to kill infidels. Which is what has been done in much of the rest of the world for many years, in Indonesia and Africa, and now Europe and here at the Boston marathon and in Santa Barbara and Ft. Hood etc etc etc. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I can't read your posts today. I have the impression you are just straining to find some way to call me a hypocrite and I don't feel like playing the game.From what I can tell from a brief reading you seem to be equating an action by Obama to bring in aliens with Trump's action to keep them out. The law I've quoted justifies Trump's action. I have no idea what the legal situation is with Obama's but the law I quoted does not apply to it. What I said was that I understood him to have ordered something SIMILAR to Trump's about keeping aliens out, not what you are saying, and that nobody protested THAT action at the time, so why are they protesting a similar action by Trump? The people you show protesting are protesting his irresponsible actions in bringing IN aliens, another situation entirely.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.