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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
In fact I have avoided accusing you of racism. Although for someone opposed to racism you seemed awfully ambivalent about it in a recent post.
And I guess that telling the obvious truth is what you call "PC". But it really isn't something you can reasonably complain about. If you don't want to be called a bigot then stop shoving your bigotry in our faces. And yes, I know that you don't think that it is bigotry - but believing it doesn't make it any less bigoted.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Which means that they are better than most of your sources. And NOT "extreme leftist propaganda"
And being hated by the far right is hardly a reason not to trust them. So, your post comes down to another expression of your totalitarian wish to silence dissenting voices.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: It is telling that your argument rests on misrepresenting the quote. Here is the actual quote:
"If she's Jewish, she should go back to her country," a 13-year-old Trump supporter said of a protester.
Yes, that is a call to deport Jews.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
At best we have a 13 year old in the US (of all places!) who thinks that all "foreigners" should be sent "home". And classes Jews as "foreign".
One wonders where they picked up those ideas.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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How strange that a child would pick up far-right views from a "Leftist propaganda factory".
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
There is still anti-semitism on the Right. Remember these little darlings ? And the idea of sending immigrants "home" is a commonplace of the right for as long as I can remember.
So no, definitely far-right ideas.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
They were widely reported at the time. And of course 11 year olds don't have set ideologies. They were representing their family's - or at least their mother's - far right views.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Denying the facts hardly helps. How about Richard Spencer - well known as a Trump supporter.
There are racists on the right. And they backed Trump. When will you learn that the truth is not subject to your likes and dislikes ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: My points about Richard Spencer's ideology are not determined by a "few ideologues who have their own agenda for supporting him". If you think otherwise then I would like to know why.
quote: Richard Spencer is on the right. He is a racist. Therefore there are racists on the right. That is hardly irrational. So quit the abuse and deal with the point.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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No you did not. You made an insane accusation.
Let me repeat the point AGAIN Richard Spencer is on the right. He is a racist. Therefore there are racists on the right.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: I never said that it did. Although I am glad that you finally admit that the "leftist propaganda" that you were so determined to deny is a fact.
quote: Maybe you should learn to read English since I've restated my point twice and you still haven't got it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: It's evidence that he is. The fact that he is a major figure in the alt.right movement is rather more important, though. Not to mention his Nazi sympathies.
quote: Your inability to make obvious connections is hardly a defect in my thinking. You can't see that Richard Spencer is on the Right ? (And don't you remember that this subthread started with an allegation of an anti-Semitic remark made at a Trump rally ? And how you tried to deny it and then tried to blame it on the Left ? If you put more effort into finding the truth rather than trying to bully people into believing what you want to be true we would have a rather higher opinion of you here)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Some points to consider
1) you are including Catholics as Christians here 2) Religious tolerance laws singling out Christianity were not unknown. The law that the Catholics passed in Maryland to welcome the Puritans did. (The Puritans repeated it after both their revolts). Nothing in the U.S. Constitution singled out Christianity. 3) Jefferson is on record as supporting religious freedom for Muslims and Hindus. 4) Madison was firmly against government support for Christian denominations. So where does this idea that the Constitution gives special privileges to Christianity come from, when it is not in the text and both Jefferson and Madison would have been against it ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
I note that you don't answer the question and that your answer tends only to reinforce the point that neither the First Amendment nor the Constitution in general (including, at least, the Bill of Rights) intended to give Christianity a special place.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
As you know court decisions can be wrong, and for a long time State Governments were NOT bound by the First Amendment.
And of course with the bias in favour of Christianity it is not surprising that unconstitutional practices were able to thrive. However this assertion of yours is false:
quote: As you admitted in your previous post the Constitution was NOT intended to be a Christian document. And that is quite at odds with your idea of "what America was really about".
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