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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: As I have pointed out earlier this is not really true:
The bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason and right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally passed; and a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read, "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, and Infidel of every denomination.
Thomas Jefferson on the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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What I am seeing is a continued refusal to accept the rule of law, demanding that Trumo be appointed dictator. If the President is entitled to break any law he likes - and painting investigations and the invocation of impeachment as automatically wrong does that - then freedom is finished.
Describing impeachment as a "leftist coup" is literally insane. Pence would take over and no body could honestly call Pence a "leftist"
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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If Trump goes down it will because of his contempt for the law and the Constitution.
And all your lies and hate won't save him. I am glad that modern America is NOT like Germany in the 1930s. Bad as he is Trump is not Hitler.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
You've certainly fallen for the propaganda! Your description of Trump is completely unrecognisable. How can anyone forget Trumps massive ego, continual lying and habit of vilifying people on Twitter? Or the Trump University scam?
And it's hardly "obvious" that there is nothing to the Russian collusion. Trump's existing links to Russian businesses, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions misleading Congress, Trump trying to get the investigation of Flynn halted, Trump sacking Comey and claiming it was for something Comey did in July last year.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
That's because I'm not. You are.
Let's not forget that the main reasons the media are "attacking" Trump are that he really is doing a lot of bad things that deserve reporting - and that he wants them to act as his personal propaganda machine. Remember how Trump called the media dishonest because they wouldn't say that Mexico would pay for the wall? And even now is there any sign that Mexico will pay for the wall?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
They certainly didn't give Obama a pass on everything.
But then the propaganda machine has clearly got to you. You can't even see the truth when it is under your nose. You can't even admit that Mexico has no intention of paying for Trump's wall, and that nobody has offered any viable way of making them pay for it.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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Sure, in a free country winning an election would give you total control of the press and you could make them print any falsehoods you like, no matter how ridiculous.
Put it down to th evil totalitarian Founding Fathers granting freedom of the the press- and even putting it into the evil totalitarian Constitution. Along with the evil totalitarian idea of a "balance of powers" which stops Trump doing whatever he wants.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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No, just fact. And you're the one complaining that Trump isn't dictator. And blaming the press.
To take one example. It isn't the fault of anyone but Trump that healthcare was more complicated than he thought (anyone who had been following the debate would know that the ACA was a balancing act - well except for those listening to silly propaganda about "socialised healthcare" I suppose). It isn't the fault of anyone but Trump and the Republicans that their tinkering with the ACA will take many out of insurance, and make it more expensive for many more - contrary to Trumps promises. It isn't the fault of anyone outside the Republican Party that some Republicans thought that the the changes weren't extreme enough and halted the first attempt. Trump got elected on propaganda. Too bad you insist on believing it even after it turns out to be false.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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I'm not lying. You are the one complaining that the press prints the truth - or at least something close to the truth - instead of what you want.
And how can Trump sort the healthcare situation out when the Republicans are divided and what he wants is probably impossible anyway ? It doesn't take any "obstructionism" from the left for that. And don't forget we saw plenty of obstructionism from the right in the last few years.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Oh yes. We come back to your use of "lying" to mean "telling truths you don't like"
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
quote: I note that this comes from somebody who tried to defend Ann Coulter.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
Nothing you could say would better prove my point.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
And there you do it again. If you feel happy with throwing out such hate, how can you complain when people on your side are criticised ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5 |
The contempt underlying it - contempt for the truth as well as individuals - is a pretty good indication of hate. Let's face it proof is a pretty good justification for criticism. But apparently not good enough when you are the target.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.5
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You expect you and your side to be exempt from criticism - even truthful criticism - while retaining the right to criticise your opponents without regard for the truth. And you find it "unbelievable" that your opponents won't accept that ?
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