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Message 1 of 21 (810119)
05-23-2017 6:39 PM


I am used to endless crap, boy am I. Not a whole lot shocks me, honestly.

But Republican mayoral candidate Nicole Malliotakis left me begging for mercy.

On AM station 970, we were pooped on the heads, courtesy of Assemblywoman Malliotakis, with these words :

quote:

He is spending money, and yet we're not seeing the results
....
He's putting hundreds of millions of dollars into the public-school system

It was an attack on Mayor de Blasio, but first a little background.

Republicans were, for years, planning on attacking the Mayor over crime (weak on crime stuff ) but the record low murder rates just keep breaking new records month after month. Year after year. Republicans are reduced to bitching over his closure of Rikers Island, even though it will save over $1 billion plus have powerful private sector uses worth much more.

They are reduced to attacking his historic tackling of much neglected problems in adequately funding vital public school problems.

While the Republicans are making lots of noise about their own ideas, such as siphoning public funds toward charter schools, Mayor de Blasio made history.

It turns out that about 20% of public school were so underfunded that they never ever had the bare basics, specifically air-conditioning.

2017 is a historic year for not just New York, but imo, the nation at large.

The Mayor funded the schools to have air-conditioning so now there really is a step towards making education for 100% of students an actual priority for once.

I wish this was a national priority, but we are one major step toward the goal of making genuine investments in the future we all collectively share. But there are many steps to go.

This Republican clown should run in Mississippi.

If she insists on running here, then I say we, the people, vote her down to defeat so decisively that she gets the message that this is a new day in America and the same old economically ruinous crap out of the past she brings gets returned to the sender.

So, dear EVCers , anything shock you on the homefront?


    
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Message 3 of 21 (810469)
05-29-2017 11:56 PM


Maxine Waters (D-CA): ‘You cannot impeach a woman of color!’

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/...impeach-woman-color-video


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 4 of 21 (810548)
05-30-2017 5:33 PM
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Correction at the source page
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**Update**: Maxine Waters said you cannot impeach a woman of ‘Congress’, not ‘Color’.

Racist Freudian slip of sorts???

Moose


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Message 5 of 21 (810561)
05-30-2017 8:15 PM
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Re: Correction at the source page
I note the correction.

However you can impeach anyone in congress (per the constitution), although expulsion is the normal method of removing either a representative or senator.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 6 of 21 (810569)
05-30-2017 9:41 PM
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05-30-2017 5:33 PM


Re: Correction at the source page
Racist Freudian slip of sorts???

Just to be clear, the slip was made the writer of the article and not by Coyote. Apparently the article did originally misquote the Congresswoman.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 7 of 21 (810572)
05-30-2017 10:14 PM


I never thought highly of Waters ( except briefly in the mid 1990s ).
She said she would make a big thing about taking on the CIA, back when it was disclosed that the agency made money sending drugs into the black community.

Then she dropped it.

It is a taboo subject, though an Elizabeth Drew book, covering the 1996 race ( and three congressional districts ) even mentioned that the CIA admitted it had a presence in Mena Arkansas.

Barry Seal of the San Jose Mercury wrote a 20,000 word report and a book, but Waters was silent.

She was silent when he committed "suicide" by shooting himself dozens of times in the back of his head, too.


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Message 8 of 21 (810601)
05-31-2017 1:27 AM
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05-30-2017 10:14 PM


Re: I never thought highly of Waters ( except briefly in the mid 1990s ).
She was silent when he committed "suicide" by shooting himself dozens of times in the back of his head, too.

Who claims that Barry Seal committed suicide?


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 9 of 21 (810606)
05-31-2017 3:29 AM
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05-31-2017 1:27 AM


Re: I never thought highly of Waters ( except briefly in the mid 1990s ).
I meant to type Gary Webb. (not Bary Seal )

The journalist who wrote the 20,000 word series for the San Jose Mercury.

Oops.


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Message 10 of 21 (810663)
05-31-2017 2:20 PM
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05-31-2017 3:29 AM


Re: I never thought highly of Waters ( except briefly in the mid 1990s ).
I meant to type Gary Webb. (not Bary Seal )

Webb is alleged to have shot himself twice and not dozens of times.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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Message 11 of 21 (810665)
05-31-2017 2:49 PM
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05-30-2017 9:41 PM


Re: Correction at the source page
NoNukes writes:

quote:
Just to be clear, the slip was made the writer of the article and not by Coyote.

Yes, but Coyote is the one who quoted the Gateway Pundit in the first place. It was established by crank Jim Hoft and is a mainstay of the "alt" right and regularly publishes this kind of bigoted nonsense (birtherism, "voter fraud," etc. not to mention other racist and sexist commentary.)

So no, Coyote is not entirely blameless in this. Gateway Pundit is known to be a purveyor of racism and he decided to use them as a source.

Besides, if one is going to whine about California, Issa is right up there.


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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Minds are like parachutes. Just because you've lost yours doesn't mean you can use mine.

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Message 12 of 21 (810694)
05-31-2017 8:13 PM
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05-31-2017 2:49 PM


Issa
Issa is the one who came up with the recall idea, in early 2003, right after the highly unpopular Governor Davis narrowly beat a right wing Republican ( Republicans were having a fit during the 2002 race - feeling stupid as hell for not having a better and more moderate candidate in 2002)

The Republicans were able to run Davis' recall successfully in September 2003, winning 55% to 45% against remain.

They also got the governorship from 2003 ( Arnold Schwarzenegger won the same night Davis was removed ) to 2011.

The GOP Issa brainchild seemed like a good idea for the right wing, but in hindsight it appears to have helped Democratic chances longer term.

Californian and it's problems ( largely shared with the nation, but partly due to idiosyncrasies at the state level ) during the decade weren't able to be successfully blamed on the Democrats, as the Republicans were generally considered good at doing otherwise.

An instructive example of winning short term but loosing longer term. A Republican specialty of the last 25 plus years in California.


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Message 13 of 21 (810696)
05-31-2017 8:19 PM
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05-31-2017 2:20 PM


I am amazed at how many people NOW know of Gary Webb
I love known about him for over 10 years ( 15 I think ), but there was just a movie about him I think.

I find people telling me about him and not just in New York.


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Message 14 of 21 (810698)
05-31-2017 8:44 PM
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One more thing about Issa.
He actually belongs to a caucus in Congress that exists for the purpose of our nation owning up to the dishonorable dealings with the various Native American tribes, especially in the area of treaties.

So he isn't a particularly bad character really.

His district used to be safe Republican, but somehow Hillary Clinton won it last time.

She won the Dana Rohrabacher seat too ( I am rooting for Rohrabacher to win because he has always been one to genuinely want peace in the Middle East and - after the Cold War - with Russia ).

I still can't believe she won the John Culbertson seat in Houston since the Republicans never won the Presidential elections in that district by less than 18 points in the last 20 years.

Dallas, Houston, and San Diego are changing areas I suppose. ( Republicans always overextended themselves in Dallas honesty, but they created a 2nd Democratic district there, in 2012, partly to keep the Jeff Sessions seat from becoming more competitive in the future, and also to reflect the reality that there was too much gerrymander-induced stretching in a Democratic leaning area. Dallas County has had a 60% Democratic performance, but Republicans had like 9 out of 10 seats touching the area from 2004 to 2012, and the Sessions district''s 53% to 46% McCain win in 2008 was the only one between 2000 and 2016 in the Dallas area that was even remotely close )

Anyway, the Issa seat is a type of seat that makes up a major type (perhaps nearly half of the 20 or so ) of seat that Hillary won but a Republican represents in the Congress.


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Message 15 of 21 (810703)
05-31-2017 9:42 PM
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I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
( OK , a few more )

The Republicans idea to do redistricting , any time they felt like, as opposed to just after the final census numbers came in early 2001, was real crazy. But they decided, in 2003, that the time was right (in Texas ) to try such a thing. Redraw the (then ) 32 congressional districts in time for the 2004 elections.

The unprecedented redrawing of the district lines was actually constitutional. It just was never attempted before, out of a standard of decency (but there was no constitutional standard ). (Republicans in Georgia did the same thing in the 2005 to 2006 period ).

Democratic state legislators actually fled Texas ( yes the state and not just Austin ) so that the Texas Law enforcement officers (of arms ) couldn't capture them, and return them to the floor of the State Senate and House of Delegates to enable a required majority of legislators present for votes to take place.

That was crazy.

The irony in it all is that the Supreme Court was already sick and tired of ILLEGAL partisan motivated district lines being drawn, but the Court never could figure out how to come up with a suitable standard replacement for the typical practice.

Those who defended the standard practice made arguments that partisan voting patterns can change overnight, so the districts shouldn't be seen as particularly favorable to a specific party - though presently they always seemed to be.

The Supreme Court has been irritated for a long time over the partisan redistricting ( and it was a major reason for chipping away at parts of the Voting Rights Act ) , but couldn't find a practical solution, thus the courts stay away from the complicated issue. One argument defenders of the gerrymandering say is that Hispanics could flip the districts from GOP leaning towards the Democrats IF THEY TURN OUT IN HIGHER NUMBERS.

I remember the late Scalia making the point, over 10 years ago, that eligible Hispanics in Texas turn out 18% less than whites, wwhile the national average is 30% less.

Texas districts seem to be changing as the logic implies.

A NorthCarolina district scheme in place since 2012 has gotten court attention.

Might make it to the SupremeCourt.


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