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Author Topic:   Who is the biggest clown among your state & local political jokers?
New Cat's Eye
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Message 16 of 21 (810705)
05-31-2017 10:25 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by LamarkNewAge
05-31-2017 9:42 PM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
Democratic state legislators actually fled Texas ( yes the state and not just Austin ) so that the Texas Law enforcement officers (of arms ) couldn't capture them, and return them to the floor of the State Senate and House of Delegates to enable a required majority of legislators present for votes to take place.

That was crazy.

The irony in it all is that the Supreme Court was already sick and tired of ILLEGAL partisan motivated district lines being drawn, but the Court never could figure out how to come up with a suitable standard replacement for the typical practice.

Those who defended the standard practice made arguments that partisan voting patterns can change overnight, so the districts shouldn't be seen as particularly favorable to a specific party - though presently they always seemed to be.

The Supreme Court has been irritated for a long time over the partisan redistricting ( and it was a major reason for chipping away at parts of the Voting Rights Act ) , but couldn't find a practical solution, thus the courts stay away from the complicated issue.

I don't believe you.


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NoNukes
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Message 17 of 21 (810709)
05-31-2017 10:49 PM
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05-31-2017 9:42 PM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
A NorthCarolina district scheme in place since 2012 has gotten court attention.

Might make it to the SupremeCourt.

Might make it to the Supreme Court?

The Supreme Court ruled on this last week. The districts drawn by the Republicans and used in the last election were held to be unconstitutional.

Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.


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Message 18 of 21 (810718)
06-01-2017 1:51 AM
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05-31-2017 10:25 PM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
I put TEXAS 2003 REDISTRICTING DEMOCRATS FLED STATE into the Google engine and all 10 hits registered.

I haven't read the hits yet, but I seem to remember Rick Perry threatening to send the Texas Guard after the delinquent Democrats. I was afraid to say that since my memory is foggy. I still don't know.

It looks like one Wikipedia article is TEXAS ELEVEN.

Also.

Alabama just took steps to change a 1901 law that has led to 20% of black people in the state to be disqualified from voting. The legislation had bald words about preventing a negro voting majority, if I am understanding Wednesday New York Times correctly. The quotes in the NYT opinion piece are so shocking that I find it hard to believe it could actually be part of legislative language.

Three times over the percentage of disqualified whites is the nearly 20% of disqualified black voters in Alabama.

Unreal that the century plus year old policy is still constitutional.


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 19 of 21 (810720)
06-01-2017 1:56 AM
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05-31-2017 10:49 PM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
I wonder if the decision was just a punt back to North Carolina to make minor changes, or if there will actually be instructions that demand a strict set of standards. I highly doubt the latter.
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NoNukes
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Message 20 of 21 (810880)
06-02-2017 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by LamarkNewAge
06-01-2017 1:51 AM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
I put TEXAS 2003 REDISTRICTING DEMOCRATS FLED STATE into the Google engine and all 10 hits registered.
I haven't read the hits yet,

There is no need. This incident is well documented, as is the fact that the Republicans did elect to redistrict in 2003 after the 2001 post census redistricting did not produce the desired results. The Supreme Court found that portions of the 2003 redistricting were unconstitutional. Currently the only thing that the Supreme Court will find unconstitutional is harmful race based redistricting. The court so far has not found partisan redistricting to be unconstitutional.

Justice Roberts has expressed a willingness to rule against partisan redistricting but says that there are no objective criteria on which to do so. I have no idea if he is sincere or not.

It is unclear exactly what issue NCE has with your post. Maybe he has an issue with you.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Not really, it is a theory that is imposed on nature so consistently that you think you are observing it. -- Faith

Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000


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LamarkNewAge
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Message 21 of 21 (810954)
06-03-2017 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by NoNukes
06-02-2017 1:38 PM


Re: I just thought of one more crazy thing. Just 1 more.
I got his joke, but since he quoted my text, I decided to blather on.

BTW, the 1901 Alabama policy came via a constitutional convention, and the Supreme Court struck it down in 1985 ( but the 1901 policy essentially practically remained intact due to the ability to tweek the details a bit.


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