|
Author
|
Topic: Is The World Getting Better Or Worse?
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
Message 240 of 762 (863478)
09-26-2019 11:45 AM
|
Reply to: Message 236 by Phat
09-26-2019 10:53 AM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Phat writes: ... you have discussed The Rapture before as if it indeed could become reality, right? Well if so, we *are* in the last days....
Non sequitur.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 236 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 10:53 AM | | Phat has not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
(2)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 241 of 762 (863479)
09-26-2019 11:47 AM
|
Reply to: Message 238 by Phat
09-26-2019 11:00 AM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Phat writes: It is not us vs them. It is humanity versus Satan.
It's us versus us.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 238 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 11:00 AM | | Phat has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 242 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 12:05 PM | | ringo has replied | | | Message 271 by Faith, posted 09-27-2019 9:31 AM | | ringo has seen this message but not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(2)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 243 of 762 (863489)
09-26-2019 12:31 PM
|
Reply to: Message 242 by Phat
09-26-2019 12:05 PM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Phat writes: If so, how do you propose we reconcile with this enemy?
"We have met the enemy and he is us." It's hard to find a clear winner in that fight.
Phat writes: And dont tell me that we need to limit our perspective to logic and evidence.
That's like asking, "What's 1 + 1 ?" and then adding, "And don't tell me it's 2." The answer is the answer. Reality is reality.
Phat writes: At best we would become atheistic secular humanists.
That would be best. Why don't you do that?
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 242 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 12:05 PM | | Phat has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 246 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 3:55 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 288 of 762 (863577)
09-27-2019 12:27 PM
|
Reply to: Message 246 by Phat
09-26-2019 3:55 PM
|
|
Re: Find Reality (then throw it away)
Phat writes: Atheism is not reality.
I didn't say it was. I said reality is reality.
Phat writes: It seems evident and obvious to you, but you do not have all of the evidence.
Since when do you care about evidence? You usually scoff at evidence.
Phat writes: Once you find God(perhaps in that place you have yet to look) you can safely "throw Him away" if you insist.
Does that statement make sense to you if you substitute "Tooth Fairy" for "God"?
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 246 by Phat, posted 09-26-2019 3:55 PM | | Phat has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 289 of 762 (863578)
09-27-2019 12:33 PM
|
Reply to: Message 251 by Faith
09-26-2019 6:24 PM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Faith writes: Tell ringo to make room for us on his Frozen Wasteland.
At the moment we're stocking up on Muslims but we could probably squeeze in a few blancos too. (Leave your guns behind.)
Faith writes: With an enterprising spirit he and his family and friends could even turn a profit from us.
It's true, immigrants are profitable in the long term.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 251 by Faith, posted 09-26-2019 6:24 PM | | Faith has not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 291 of 762 (863583)
09-27-2019 12:49 PM
|
Reply to: Message 286 by Phat
09-27-2019 12:16 PM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Phat writes: He believes that the world will likely end(in less than 100 years)..
The world is not going to end in 100 years or 1000 years. Humans might.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 286 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 12:16 PM | | Phat has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 295 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 3:52 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 292 of 762 (863584)
09-27-2019 12:51 PM
|
Reply to: Message 290 by Phat
09-27-2019 12:39 PM
|
|
Re: Find Reality (then throw it away)
Phat writes: ringo writes: Does that statement make sense to you if you substitute "Tooth Fairy" for "God"?
Not unless they are interchangeable.
Why would they not be?
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 290 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 12:39 PM | | Phat has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 296 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 4:19 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 299 of 762 (863603)
09-27-2019 5:37 PM
|
Reply to: Message 294 by Phat
09-27-2019 3:48 PM
|
|
Re: Find Reality (then throw it away)
Phat writes: I scoff at the idea that God would or could be known through evidence.
I could mention the story of Thomas again. Jesus did offer evidence.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 294 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 3:48 PM | | Phat has not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 300 of 762 (863604)
09-27-2019 5:42 PM
|
Reply to: Message 295 by Phat
09-27-2019 3:52 PM
|
|
Re: The solutions could be worse than the problem and nobody is addressing that
Phat writes: We are discussing how to preserve ourselves rather than just the planet.
Are we? Isn't saving the other species on the planet a worthy cause?
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 295 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 3:52 PM | | Phat has not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 302 of 762 (863606)
09-27-2019 5:49 PM
|
Reply to: Message 296 by Phat
09-27-2019 4:19 PM
|
|
Re: Is It Intercession or an Inner Session?
Phat writes: Praying to the spaghetti monster, mother earth Gaia princess or Allah most merciful won't work for me.
How do you know? Have you tried it?
Phat writes: Jesus fits in with all religions if they give Him some room.
There is no room in a monotheistic religion for two (or three) gods. There is no room in a "personal relationship" for a mediator.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 296 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 4:19 PM | | Phat has not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 303 of 762 (863607)
09-27-2019 5:54 PM
|
Reply to: Message 298 by Phat
09-27-2019 4:39 PM
|
|
Re: looking At It Another Way
Phat writes: How about substituting Playboy centerfold for God?
That analogy only works insofar as the "relationship" is a fantasy.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 298 by Phat, posted 09-27-2019 4:39 PM | | Phat has seen this message but not replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 310 of 762 (863633)
09-28-2019 12:16 PM
|
Reply to: Message 306 by Faith
09-28-2019 11:02 AM
|
|
Re: Climate Trolls Attack: a view from the totalitarian Left
Faith writes: They are not imposinbg anything on anybody, they are just living their lives. It is the Climate Change people who want to impose their view on the rest of us and treat us as criminals for merely disagreeing with you.
That's like complaining that drunk drivers are just living their lives and MADD wants to impose their view on the rest of us.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 306 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 11:02 AM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 313 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 12:33 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 311 of 762 (863634)
09-28-2019 12:17 PM
|
Reply to: Message 308 by Faith
09-28-2019 11:47 AM
|
|
Re: Climate Trolls Attack: a view from the totalitarian Left
Faith writes: No if the Climate Change people are going to call me a Climate Troll for not being on board with the Climate Change Science, I do NOT have a right even to be stupid.
Yes, you still have the right to be stupid. You do not have the right to prevent people from pointing it out.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 308 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 11:47 AM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 312 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 12:29 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
(1)
| |
| |
| |
|
|
Message 314 of 762 (863638)
09-28-2019 12:35 PM
|
Reply to: Message 312 by Faith
09-28-2019 12:29 PM
|
|
Re: Climate Trolls Attack: a view from the totalitarian Left
Faith writes: So far I have this right to be stupid but it is very clear that you who diszagree with me think I shouldnj't have it.
What you shouldn't have and don't have is the right to silence the people who point out the stupidity.
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 312 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 12:29 PM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 315 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 12:37 PM | | ringo has replied |
|
ringo
Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
|
|
|
Message 316 of 762 (863640)
09-28-2019 12:40 PM
|
Reply to: Message 313 by Faith
09-28-2019 12:33 PM
|
|
Re: Climate Trolls Attack: a view from the totalitarian Left
Faith writes: Nobody is driving drunk...
I think driving drunk is a pretty good analogy for people who are endangering other people while thinking they're just "going on with their lives".
Faith writes: And you don't even focus on the real offenders according to your own theory, you focus on the US....
I haven't mentioned the US at all. In fact, Canada is a worse offender (though it is somewhat explainable because of our cold climate, vast distances and small population.)
Maturity, one discovers, has everything to do with the acceptance of ‘not knowing.
-- Mark Z. Danielewski, House of Leaves
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 313 by Faith, posted 09-28-2019 12:33 PM | | Faith has not replied |
|
™ Version 4.2