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JonF
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Message 1333 of 5796 (851103)
04-19-2019 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1332 by Faith
04-19-2019 1:21 PM


Given that interpretation and her interpretation I'm going with hers.
Of course you do.
Oh so and so is a liar, and that takes care of whatever needs taking care of.
No. So and so is a liar and should be taken with a large grain of salt.
But that sure gets you out of addressing the real issues, amirite?

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JonF
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Message 1337 of 5796 (851131)
04-20-2019 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1334 by Faith
04-19-2019 10:18 PM


There is no way Abby Johnson is a liar.
She's a liar. We understand that you think nobody that agrees with you can lie and everyone that doesn't agree with you is lying.
Your beliefs do not change reality.

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JonF
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Message 1339 of 5796 (851133)
04-20-2019 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 1338 by Theodoric
04-20-2019 10:13 AM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
To be fair it's non-trivial to measure what percentage of PP's service's are abortion, although it's obviously far less than half. The 3.4% is based on number of services and counts handing out a pack of condoms the same as an abortion. Many people disagree with that methodology.

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JonF
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Message 1341 of 5796 (851141)
04-20-2019 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1340 by Theodoric
04-20-2019 11:47 AM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Abortion services are a minor part of the services Planned Parenthood provides. That is a fact.
Yes.
As for methodology, see Planned Parenthood Annual Report 2018, page numbered 25. (332,757/9,687,070)*100 = 3.4%.
For going way overboard in the opposite direction, see Planned Parenthood's Services - FactCheck.org

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JonF
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Message 1345 of 5796 (851151)
04-20-2019 2:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1342 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:03 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
I did read all of it and as I said it's just standard propaganda which I've already answered.
Declaring facts "standaard propaganda" so you can ignore them (no, you didn't already answer them) is SO effective, isn't it?

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JonF
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Message 1346 of 5796 (851152)
04-20-2019 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1344 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:17 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
I did read all of it and...
All those long white pages?
I cannot read long white pages
Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

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JonF
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Message 1351 of 5796 (851159)
04-20-2019 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1343 by Faith
04-20-2019 2:08 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
Propagandizing your children in the schools I know is one of them
Nope.
They also provide contraception I believe, but that's probably a pretty small proportion as there are many other ways people can get it.
Especially poor people who can't afford it, right? It's 27% of the total number of services they supply, 2,620,867 instances in 2018.
Disposing of dead fetuses?
That comes under abortion.
Talking women into abortions and never giving them the other side of the story?
You are confusing Planned Parenthood with Christian Crisis Pregnancy Centers, who never mention abortion and harass people ho want one. No, Planned Parenthood does not talk women into abortions, and they always include all possible actions. Attention Required! | Cloudflare:
quote:
I’m pregnant ” now what?
Finding out you’re pregnant when you don’t expect it can be stressful, but it’s a pretty common experience ” about half of all women in the U.S. have an unplanned pregnancy at some point in their lives.
People who are pregnant have 3 options:
  • Parenting ” giving birth and raising the child.
  • Abortion ” taking medication or having a medical procedure that ends the pregnancy.
  • Adoption ” giving birth and placing your child with another person or family permanently.
Sometimes deciding what to do about an unplanned pregnancy is easy. Other times, it’s difficult or complicated. Your decision is very personal, and everyone’s situation is different. You’re the only person walking in your shoes, so the decision is 100% yours.
The other sections on the page are "What can I think about to help me decide?", "Who can I talk with about my options?", and "When do I need to make a decision?"
The "Who can I talk to section starts "Talking with your partner, someone in your family, a friend, a trusted religious advisor, or a counselor about unplanned pregnancy options can be helpful when you’re trying to figure out what to do." and ends "No one should pressure you into making any decision about your pregnancy, no matter what. Only you know what’s right for yourself at the moment. So getting the info and support you need from people who’ll give you the real facts and will support you is important. If you’re having a hard time finding someone in your life to talk with, check out All-Options. All-Options has a free hotline that gives you a confidential space to talk about making decisions about a pregnancy. They’ll give you judgement-free support at any point in your pregnancy experience, no matter what choice you make or how you feel about it."
As usual your sources are lying to you.

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JonF
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Message 1352 of 5796 (851160)
04-20-2019 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1347 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:05 PM


Re: Pro Life Movie a big success
I did read all of the quote supplied by Ooh-child,
Which is acres of white space. My criticism stands.

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JonF
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Message 1356 of 5796 (851164)
04-20-2019 3:28 PM
Reply to: Message 1348 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:08 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
they are evidence that full term abortions do happen and the baby is not rescued.
1. Late term abortions do happen, very rarely. You claimed "many".
2. In almost all late term abortions the fetus is not viable an/oir giving birth would cause irreversible and extremely dangerous damage to the mother and the fetus.
3. I've never heard of Northern saying anything close to "how to comfort an aborted baby while it is dying". He did say:
quote:
"[Third trimester abortions are] done in cases where there may be severe deformities. There may be a fetus that's nonviable. So in this particular example, if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen," Northam, a pediatric neurosurgeon, told Washington radio station WTOP. "The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that's what the mother and the family desired. And then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
The bill -- which among other things would end a state rule that requires at least three physicians confirm "that a third trimester abortion is necessary to prevent the woman's death or impairment of her mental or physical health" and ends "the need to find that any such impairment to the woman's health would be substantial and irremediable" -- is currently tabled in Virginia's legislature.
Northam said he supports the bill's measures, telling WTOP that "we want the government not to be involved in these types of decisions. We want the decision to be made by the mothers and their providers."

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JonF
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Message 1358 of 5796 (851166)
04-20-2019 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1350 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:16 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Anything else is manslaughter.
That's your opinion, to which you are entitled. Many agree with you. However, a majority (around 60%) of the American people disagree.

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JonF
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Message 1359 of 5796 (851168)
04-20-2019 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1355 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:26 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
They are good at their propaganda. The truth will out eventually.
What I posted are facts. BUt as usual you declare it propaganda to avoid facing reality.

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JonF
Member (Idle past 198 days)
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Message 1363 of 5796 (851178)
04-20-2019 5:02 PM
Reply to: Message 1360 by Faith
04-20-2019 3:38 PM


Re: More lies from the grifter Abby and movie Unplanned
You KNOW it's propaganda because otherwise you'd have to admit error. And that's unthinkable, amirite? “I’ve made up my mind ” don’t confuse me with facts.”
It's the report of the entire organization, showing the services they offer. Abortion is a very small part of what each and every one does. Many Planned Parent clinics do not even offer abortions.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 1375 of 5796 (851230)
04-21-2019 9:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1368 by Faith
04-20-2019 9:18 PM


Re: Point flying right over Faith's head
Prove it, Dr. Faith.

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JonF
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Message 1390 of 5796 (851436)
04-24-2019 12:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1380 by Faith
04-24-2019 11:51 AM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
It is your opinion that a human being is "being killed".
The majority of voters and the US legal system do not agree.
Things may change, but them's the facts today.
I'll have to make some phone calls later to see if I've got this right.
You should have made those calls before posting.

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JonF
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Message 1392 of 5796 (851438)
04-24-2019 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1386 by Faith
04-24-2019 12:19 PM


Re: Movie: Little Woods
It's a fetus, not a baby. In law and in the opinion of most US voters.
You disagree, but that doesn't make your claim true.

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