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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
OK, we'll leave it. No evidence presented. As usual.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Thanks for acknowledging that a fetus is not a human being.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The people who do not regard it as a human being have not seen the evidence.
In your uninformed opinion. I've seen lots of evidence. I do not regard a fetus that cannot survive outside the womb as a human being. Even you said "human being in the making
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
As you said, "human being in the making". I agree with that.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
In your opinion
Not in US law or the opinion of a majority of Americans.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What's been "shown to me" is the usual propaganda.
Your usual pathetic excuse for avoiding the facts.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Your guess is, as usual, bullshit. PP has been doing about the same stuff for decades. And of course data from 2009 is available. Do you ever think at all?
From the strongly anti-abortion site TooManyAborted, we get the 2009 PP annual report http://www.toomanyaborted.com/.../PDFs/PP_AR_011011_vF-1.pdf.
Anyone who says or implies abortion is the thing PP does is lying. Posting facts about Johnson is ntot a smear job. Posting your crap about PP is. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Hm, and I just remembered a case where a woman in her thirties quit her job to get pregnant because her "clock was running out" and she got welfare and food stamps to help her through it. I'll have to make some phone calls later to see if I've got this right.
So did you make the calls and were told your claim is hogwash, or did you realize your claim is malarkey, not make the calls, and hope you'd get away with it?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
And propaganda.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
The only sources you trust are nutjobs that agree with your loathsome preconceptions.
Abortion is consistently about 3% of the number of services PP performs. There's plenty of evidence for that. Anyone who says otherwise is lying. PP performs many critical services for the poor. But who cares about them, just let them die without PP. Right?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
One side were Nazis.
The other side wasn't.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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They kill a million babies a year
Nope. The real figures are published, 332,757 in 2018.They don't kill babies, as you admitted, they abort fetuses.
Do you know of anybody who ever used any of the services other than abortion? Ever heard of an adoption being arranged through PP?
How many of your friends have had abortions from PP? It happens I do not know many if any of the people who use those services. Nor do I know anyone who's had an abortion through PP. But there's lots of testimonials on the Web.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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One side were Nazis.The other side weren't. Trump said there were fine people on both sides, with no qualifications.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Precision matters. Truth matters.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Thanks for checking. That makes sense, and is nothing at all like your original claim.
MediCal is not part of any "welfare" system. It's part of Medicaid.
Whether anything like these programs exist for the women in the Woods movie I have no idea but it does exist in California and is available to pregnant low-income women.
Some version of it is available in all states. Less of it in states that didn't do the Medicare expansion.
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