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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
There's a chemistry joke that goes, "Poor Johnny, poor Johnny, he is no more, what he thought was H2O was H2SO4." Of course, if you don't know a little chemistry it's not funny, because you don't know that H2SO4 is sulfuric acid. If you know even less chemistry then you don't know that H2O is water and the rhyme makes no sense at all. To people unfamiliar with science Hovind's arguments might seem to have merit, but to those familiar with science his contributions are outright laughable. They're so wild and so outlandish they don't merit serious attention. It would make as much sense to rebut the science of the Cow Jumped Over the Moon nursery rhyme. Which has been done by the way, despite photographic evidence to the contrary. I couldn't find the satirical rebuttal, but I did find this cute postscript at http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Square/2041/heydiddlediddle.htm : The cat was declared a dangerous offenderand is now serving a sentence of indeterminent length It took awhile to figure out that Diddle Diddle was more than just a nickname... The cow has been apprehendedfor entering restricted airspace and is being held for questioning by NASA who would like to know just how she managed to get enough thrust to reach escape velocity... The little dog was impounded for breakingseveral noise by-laws his owners are trying to raise the funds to get him out of the pound... The dish and the spoon are now living analternate lifestyle in an upscale section of San Francisco where they are active in the Housewares Pride Movement... --Percy [This message has been edited by Percipient, 01-20-2002]
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joz Inactive Member |
Here's one for you Percy
A mathematics professor named Hall,Possessed an octagonal ball. The cube of its weight, Divided by eight. was 9 times the root of sod all....
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joz Inactive Member |
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http://www.aps.org/apsnews/11855.html Cole's Lost Soulby A. P. French There was a young fellow named ColeWho ventured too near a black hole. His dv by dt Was quite wondrous to see But now all that's left is his soul.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: You got that round the wrong way bud the Doppler effect causes the red shift.... Any idea where I can read a good scientific account of this stretching of the heavens?
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5225 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
The Buffalo Theory
A herd of buffalo can move only as fast as the slowest buffalo. When the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, we all know, kills brain cells, but naturally it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"You got that round the wrong way bud the Doppler effect causes the red shift...."
--Yes I am aware of that, I should have emphesized, I was making you aware that I am familiar with the red shift as well as the existance of the blue shift. "Any idea where I can read a good scientific account of this stretching of the heavens?"--What would you mean? This was a reference from the bible as it says all through it that when God created the heavens he 'streched' them. I guess a scientific account would be the theory of an expanding universe. ------------------
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine.
That's why you always feel smarter after a few beers."--LOL ------------------ [This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 01-21-2002]
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: But bud you got the causal relationship round the wrong way. A causes B is a different statement to B causes A.
quote: Ah so is that where we are to look for scientific accounts of phenomena from a creationist standpoint? A religious tract? You said that the Hubble red shift could be explained (to tie in with a special creation ex nihilo 4,500 years ago presumably) by a stretching of the heavens. Since current cosmological models based on an expanding universe give an age of somewhat more than 4,500 years please explain where I can read about this stretching of the heavens as a scientific theory. [This message has been edited by joz, 01-22-2002]
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Sorry, Percy.
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nator Member (Idle past 2200 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
LOL!!!
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
"LOL!!!" --This is how you people attempt to get a higher post count isn't it, cheaters! ------------------
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
I just stumbled onto this at http://bibleandscience.com/index.htm :
UPCOMING CREATION DEBATE Dr. Stephen C. Meyers will be debating Dr. Kent Hovind on February 23, 2002 from 2 to 4 PM. The debate is at East Juniata High School, RR 2 Box 2411, McAlisterville, PA 17049. It is about one hour northwest of Harrisburg. New Directions: From I-81 Harrisburg, take Rt.322 West. Take the Thompsontown/East Salem Exit. At the stop sign, turn right on to Rt. 333. As you travel on Rt 333, it changes to Rt. 235. Follow 235 North into McAlisterville (6 1/2 miles from exit). At the square in McAlisterville, you will come to a traffic light. Turn right on to Rt. 35 North, and follow it for 3.4 miles to East Juniata High School which is on the left. A Good News Lutheran Church is on the right. Topics for Debate:1. What does Genesis One mean? 2. Literal interpretation of the Bible, especially Genesis One. 3. Inspiration of Scripture: Is the Bible scientifically accurate? 4. How old is the earth or universe? 5. Was there death before sin? 6. Was Noah's flood local or global? 7. Are dinosaurs mentioned in the Bible? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Moose ------------------BS degree, geology, '83 Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe |
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Christian1 Inactive Member |
quote: Well if the panel would consist of people who believe that evolution is fact and not belief you said it your self, I don't say evolution isn't true, I say it isn't proven, I don't say creation is true, I say I believe it. Evolution is a belief with no scientific evidence, only more theories. If you can convince Dr. Hovind that evolution is fact/science, he will pay you $250,000. He's not saying come to me with a theory, everything you have is theory, he even calls creation a theory, just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean you're right. I don't believe in evolution, that doesn't mean that I am right. I believe in "The Theory of Creation" and I say to you PROVE IT WRONG! Stop replying with more lies and bashes on Dr. Hovind. If you want to bash him, he will pay you to do it. '...this is my open challenge to debate any one (or group of people)** who believe in evolution. I will even pay them $100 if they will debate.....' - Dr. Kent Hovind
http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=25 Typical silly reasons why evolutionists refuse to debate creationists: 1. There is no debate; evolution is a fact- all scientists accept this.2. Creation science is not science. 3. We don’t want to give a platform to creationists. Creation belongs in the church and evolution in science class. 4. The average audience doesn’t understand the complexities of evolution so it is hard for an evolutionist to explain in the short time allotted. This makes it appear the creationists have won. [Hovind translation of this response-Evolutionists are smart and everyone who does not believe in evolution is too dumb to realize this.] 5. Hovind is a professional debater who gets paid to do this. I’m just a teacher/researcher. I have never had a debate class in my life. I don’t get paid to debate, I will pay them! 6. Dr. Walter Brown has a list of other common excuses (and a well reasoned response to each) listed at www.creationscience.com/ p. 319
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LudvanB Inactive Member |
quote: [This message has been edited by LudvanB, 02-12-2002]
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3853 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
The problem is that $250k is not enough to pay the court fees it would take to get Mr. Hovind to pay up *after* you prove evolution is a fact.
[This message has been edited by gene90, 02-12-2002]
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