What happens after the oil is gone?

I agree, it is not a solution to our fossil fuel problem.As far as the politics go, I could care less. I feel it is a small piece to how we can better utilize our remaining supply of fossil fuels.There are many times I would choose to ride the bus if I could, I have lived in city/towns of comparable size that do have have public transit....Oshkosh WI....ect.

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per asperaNihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

How about you libs let the rest of us alone, eh?Your "answers" might be fine for the little libs from Yale and Harvard--they obviously don't know any better--but the rest of us have our own ways of doing things.

Ah, a 1 rating for that last post.Obviously I tweaked some lib somewhere!(Good. They need it.)

What are you talking about? Nobody's proposing that you get a public bus for hauling your horses.What are you talking about?Jon

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Love your enemies!

The key is that you are going to change, one way or another.The goal is to find ways to minimize the pain of change.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

There are alot of green solutions out thereThe cheap ones:
- disel cars run on just about any oil all you have to do is filter it (you have to change the gas lines because oil eats trough the standard diesel lines in your car)
- Biodisel can be made out of alot of biowaste that is going to waste as long as the resources are free it costs about 10 cents a liter to make real biodisel not just filtered oil, and biodisel is actually better then real diesel as fare as performance goes
- Electric cars if you dont make allot of mileage and are not a speed freak and its green as long as the electricity is green
- Air cars cars that run on compressed air as long as the electricity is green so is the mode for this transportation surprisingly fast and 400 km on one tank but fast to fill up so not such a problem as electric carsThe less cheap ones and needed in the future
- Growing crops to make biodisel (still cheaper then drilling for the stuff but you have to eat too)
- cars running on natural gas not so green but better then petrol or dieselFuture tech:-cars running on hydrogen hydrogen is currently expensive if one could produce it cheaply and use green electricity to do so it would be a good alternative to fossil fuels-The Japanese announced about a year ago that they will make a car that actually "cleans" the environment, i couldn't find out on what principle it will do so but interesting non the less.As for the energy sources of the future my money is on helium-3 from the moon used in nuclear fusion, a Russian billionaire is planning this he said if the moon was made of gold it would be too expensive to ship it to earth but helium 3 is another story. And of course the standard solar, wind, tidal, hydro, power stations.As for what the governments can do, public transport of all kinds subway, bus, rent a bike (we just got this in our capital works surprisingly well you buy a card fill it up with cash get to a "bike station " rent it and drop it off at the nearest bike station to your destination) and Eco taxis are becoming more and more popular my guess is the companies save allot on cheap alternative fuel and charge the same as the competition.

Ah, I'm going to change, eh?For my own good, of course? (Or is it for the children?)Do I get to drive my 4x4 to the reeducation camp, or do I have to take the bus?

You'll be able to rent a 4x4 if needed.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

As long as the road isnt too rough my passat 1,9 TDI could do it with ease (has done it) 105 hp but tones of torque diesel baby and if my math is correct 42 miles per gallon.

Gee, that's big of you. The guvmnt will come by to save us, real soon now.You libs sure seem good at trying to order our lives for us. Don't know what we'd do without your help. (But I'd like to try.)

Look Coyote, I'm happy to put my 'Conservative' credentials up against yours any day, been there, got the t-shirt and the merit badge, so don't try using your lib designation on me.The difference between me as a conservative and today's conservatives is that I am not an ignorant, selfish, fascist.Change is coming.Get used to it.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Try climbing a few dozen miles of bad roads, rising some five thousand feet, with a heavy trailer and three fat horses with all their tack and the camping gear.Wimpy little cars need not apply.

Ja wohl, mein Fuhrer.

Nope - drugs (meth, mostly), shitty schools, and unemployment is the rural America. Maybe you have to be from there to know it. Hardly anybody, though. That's the point - you rurals aren't salt-of-the-earth "real Americans", you're a small out-of-touch minority who nonetheless insist on everything else - especially urban policy - being run according to your wishes. Frankly a lot of us semi-urban types are tired of subsidizing your decadent lifestyles. Of course, rurals are basically "gubmint come save me" when it comes to farm subsidies, and rural America sucks down about 5 dollars in Federal and state tax expenditures for every 1 dollar paid in taxes by rural communities, individuals, and businesses. You should be a lot less concerned about people trapped in the Superdome with no transportation, food, or water and a lot more concerned about how your unsustainable rural lifestyle continues only by picking my pocket.

No one is saying you have to give up your car or truck, I know I wont either.What is being said is that public transit could help reduce our use of fossil fuels.

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"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. ThompsonAd astra per asperaNihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.