Why was there a need for a global flood?

Hi, Open MInd. This is a dodge. You are just objecting to Granny’s use of the word “desired,” and haven’t answered the question at all. Try inserting the word “intended” in place of “desired,” and you’ll see that the central thesis of the question is not harmed in any way.So, why did God use a Flood to kill all the people when He could have just zap-poofed them out of existence? That’s the whole point of this thread, after all. Okay, so this isn’t very on-topic, but I can’t just let it slide, because I find it very offensive."Where does it say this?" is, in fact, a very well thought-out question. It’s probably the most common question you’ll ever encounter in logical debates. This is because, if a debate does not require its participants to support their arguments, then the participants could literally say whatever they want to. Demanding support for an argument is the often the only way you to find out if it's true.Granny wants you to provide a citation from the scriptures: what problem could you possibly have with that?Maybe you have a problem with it because you have been caught in a complete lie: the Torah does not say anything about changes to animals' mating practices before the Flood in response to the wickedness of mankind, nor does it say anything about animals' motivations for having sex. What it says is that, "...all flesh had corrupted their ways on the earth" (assuming your quotation is correct: you didn't supply a reference). You have inserted your own interpretation of that phrase, and Granny Magda has called you on it.Now, instead of admitting that it was a personal interpretation, you have gotten upset at Granny for not taking your word for it. That's not the way to promote honest debate, you know.

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Hi, Open MInd. But, this is exactly what God allegedly did in Noah's time!Another prophet told the people to march in circles for a week and then yell really loud, in order to take down a city's walls.So, you would believe a prophet who tells you to march in circles, but not one who tells you to jump up and down on one foot?Glad to know you have your standards, man.

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Hi, Open MInd. What on earth makes you think this answers the question?The question is not about God's morality in killing people, nor His motivation for killing them, nor why they deserved to be killed: the question is about why He killed them with a flood instead of turning them all into pillars of salt or just zap-poofing them into hell.To coin a modern analogy: Why did Col. Mustard use the lead pipe instead of the revolver?If you can't understand what is being asked of you, you shouldn't criticize other peoples' reading skills nor accuse them of ignoring your answers. Incidentally, though, I did ignore your answer, because it was the answer to the wrong question!!! No, you very specifically said that the Torah says this. Now, you've changed it to "the traditional interpretation." There is a significant difference there. And I will tell you like other people have told you. What if I don't want to believe the damn story? How then do you prove to me that it's true? It can be done, you know: I didn't want to believe in evolution five years ago when I first took Biology 100, but, here I am, a staunch evolutionist.

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Hi, Open MInd. You are unbelievably close-minded, Open MInd.Moses and Joshua asked the Israelites to do some pretty ridiculous things, you know. "March in circles," "Look at this statue of a serpent at the end of my stick," "Paint blood on the doorframe of your house," etc.Yet, you believe that this is somehow completely different from, "Jump up and down on one foot," "Cross your eyes and stick out your tongue," "Do two push-ups and spit into the holy spitoon every night before bed," etc.Somehow, the fact that a prophet of God said it makes it a completely different fruit to you. Did you ever pay attention to the part where the Israelites only had Moses' and Joshua's word that they were the prophets of God!!? Not once did God actually come down and tell the people that Moses or Joshua was His prophet.So, if Dr Adequate came up to you in an internet forum one day and told you that he was a prophet of God, you would have exactly the same amount of evidence that he was telling the truth as the Israelites had that Moses and Joshua were telling the truth. Yet, somehow, you fail to notice this.Good day, mate.

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Hi, Open MInd. Neither do I.But, each one of your posts to me began with an accusation that I cannot read. How long do you expect me to just take that before I start lashing back? And, why does it suddenly become rude when it's directed at you?I'm only 26, and I still have a big ego and a lot to prove. What's your excuse? So, why should I believe that your argument has any merit if it's based on an interpretation of the Torah? That's right. And your response does not answer this. The dichotomy is "flood" vs "poof," not "now" vs "later." God could zot them in a hundred years just as easily as He could zot them now, and, in both cases, it would still be "in an instant."So, if the period for repentance is the important part, why couldn't God have told Noah to spend 100 years warning the world about the coming "Poof" rather than the coming "Flood"? This way would have been just as effective at slaughtering all the evil things in the world, would still have provided the time for repentance, and, since Noah wouldn't have had to spend time building the ark, he would have had more time to preach repentance (potentially shortening the length of the wait in the process).Bluescat wants to know why creationists believe that God essentially poofs the universe into existence, then switches to using natural phenomena for His wonders and miracles (in this case, the Flood).

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