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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined:
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Einstein writes: Einstein in letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954. The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.Lots of people tend to forget this when they claim Einstein as one of their own. Especially when they also quote "God does not play dice with the Universe" |
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Why do you think that Einstein was more intelligent than Dawkins or Hitchens?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Now IamJoseph wants to "explain" one of Einstein's quotes from the Bible. For in case IamJoseph missed it the first time round:
Einstein writes: Einstein in letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954.
The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Well, Einstein was very clear that he saw the Bible as childish legends. No word salad from your side is going to change that.
In contrast, a host of not so primitive scriptures cannot measure the primitive Hebrew: why is that? Speaking in riddles again? What on earth does this even mean? How do you "measure" a language? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
I probably should have said "more prominent" or "more renowned" or "more highly awarded" or maybe "more respected". Yes, you really should have. Completely different meaning than "more intelligent". I don't know if your comments are all correct, though. For example, Einstein was disrespected by quite a few religious people. All those nasty comments in newspapers reflect that. Just like Dawkins is disrespected by some religious people now. So, I don't know if Einstein was "more or less respected" than Dawkins.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
After all this, Einstein still wrote
Einstein writes: No long word salad from your side is going to "unwrite" what Einstein wrote. The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. And also, your last "story" certainly is not true. It is just an urban legend. How do we know this? The story started circulating in 1999, without the name Einstein mentioned in it. Suddenly, in 2004, the name Einstein was added. The source you provided, Time magazine, certainly does not tell this story. You'd better be more careful when using creationist sources. They never tell the truth. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : Added sentence Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
IamJoseph writes: Oh, is this so? Please provide a source for this. Until then, I don't believe you.
Einstein was not an athiest by any means whatsoever, rejecting this as unscientific.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Ignoring the question I asked, again, and as always. Where did Einstein say that atheism is unscientific? A specific reference, please. Without this, I won't believe you. Are you making it up as you go?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Long word salads again. This won't change:
Einstein writes: It doesn't even help to try and word salad away what Einstein wrote by pretending to give another "interpretation" of what Einstein "really meant". The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. He did refer to the Bible. The Christian Bible, called the "Bible", specifically. The Jewish holy books (called the "Jewish Bible" by Christians), are the Torah (the first 5 books of what is called the Old Testament by most Christians), the Tanach (the entire Old Testament for a lot of Christians) and the Talmud (oral Torah, although written copies are available). Einstein wrote "Bible", specifically. Childish legends. His words, not mine. Word salads won't let what Einstein wrote disappear.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Not answering again. Where, exactly, did Einstein state that atheism is "unscientific"? Were you telling porkies about what Einstein stated, perhaps?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Again, another long word salad not to answer the question. Where did Einstein say that atheism is unscientific? I think you were telling porkies.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Again, where did Einstein say that atheism was "unscientific"? Were you telling porkies? Can't you answer the question? I think you were called for what you are. A porkie-teller of note.
I hope you know that the words "offensive" and "unscientific" have vastly different meanings?
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Beating about the bush again. Where did Einstein say that atheism is unscientific? It is noted that you tend not to tell the truth.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Again, beating about the bush. Where did Einstein say that atheism is unscientific?
Even if you don't want to acknowledge that you did not tell the truth, other people reading here can recognise it. Oh, and now you lied about what I said, too. I never wrote that Einstein did not reject atheism. Another porkie from your side. Can’t you ever tell the truth? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Beating about the bush again? Where did Einstein say that atheism is unscientific?
Your word-salads won't work to try and get out of this one. And your other fib in that post. Where did I say that Einstein did not reject atheism?Your word-salads won't work to try and get out of this one, either. Can't you ever just admit that you didn't tell the truth? Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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