"In the end there must have been a creator"

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Originally posted by Floris O:
There are lots of people who are willing to accept that everything in this universe is "governed" by the laws of physics and that it all began on a very small and simple scale. "But," they say, "I won't accept it that something comes from nothing; in the end there must have been a creator."

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Aside from the fact that this theory only raises more questions such as how did the creator came into existence, it also doesn't really make the creator very powerful. He only had to "pull the switch" which would "start off" the universe. From that point on everything would only follow the laws of physics and the universe became more and more complicated. So if that's the creator you believe exists, you might as well ignore him and get on with your life.

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Really?...i happen to believe that the creator who can determine all the laws before hand,spark the light and watch the universe unfold exactly according to IT's plans is a hellavulot more "powerfull",not to mention wiser than the creator who's a complete control freak and throws a hissy fit when things dont turn out exactly the way he plans them...

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Originally posted by Floris O:
So I take it you are not a Christian? Anyway, the supposed creator didn't necessarrily saw it's universe unfold exactly according to IT's plans. The world could have been different when the universe was recreated. Like shuffling a deck of cards: everytime they follow the lawas of physics, but which cards show up are just a matter of chance, and (almost) every time different. So there is no indication the creator had "plans."

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Or,the creator did have a plan and we're it...as we are today,as we were yesterday and as we'll be tomorrow

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Originally posted by Cobra_snake:
Isn't it true that the universe is slowly losing energy in a way that it would be impossible for it to expand and crunch and expand forever?

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LUD: Who said that? the universe is a little too large to afirm that its all loosing energy in anyway shape or form....believe it or not but there's quite a large part of it we have yet to see...