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Author Topic:   What if you have never heard of God, Jesus, or the Holy Bible?
NosyNed
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Message 16 of 90 (42625)
06-11-2003 8:22 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by mike the wiz
06-11-2003 7:44 PM


no reason to lie
A four year old?! lol, they don't need a reason. some happen to be very creative and figuring out truth from fiction is hard for the parents (from experience) and I'm not sure the kid knows sometimes.

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NosyNed
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Message 22 of 90 (42693)
06-12-2003 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by mike the wiz
06-11-2003 8:45 PM


at 3 i dont think i could even say Jesus,let alone come up with an nde that fits in with the other hundreds of cases)
Maybe, but this is very hard to control for. With what's on TV now I wouldn't trust that a kid hadn't been exposed to these ideas a number of times. I'd also be interested in the parents views and what they had ever told the kid.
With what we know about this and, I'm afraid, what we can ever know this is probably just going to stay an interesing story. It just doesn't have any value as a way of coming to any conclusions in anyway at all.
I know there are many for whom cute little stories or anecdotes count as "evidence" for something ( my Mom is one of those) but psychology and careful science has taught us that they are almost completely unreliable. At best a few of them are a starting point for real study, most of the time they aren't even that.

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NosyNed
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Message 25 of 90 (42800)
06-12-2003 8:06 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by mike the wiz
06-12-2003 7:59 PM


Stories
You are talking about people who are suffering servere medical problems. Do you think their minds are working right? Would you take them as expert witnesses for anything?
I understand that the "white light" and tunnel thing is produced by oxygen starvation to the brain. If so that explains the commonality of the stories.
We need to understand that what we remember is not what happened anytime. It is a construction of our mind made and remade when we "recall" something. Under the conditions described and with the beliefs built into our culture I would expect some interesting stories but they don't constitute much in the way of evidence for anything.

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