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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
A number of sources confirm this all over the net.
Here's an example: http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Hazor_Ebeling.htm
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
BTW, Brian, I'll be replying to your Jericho topic as soon as I can. Don't expect it right away though.
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
If Barak ended the occupation of Hazor, then the biblical account of Joshua's action there is inaccurate. Only if you subscribe to Yadin's handling of scripture:
Brian writes: There is a problem with Hazor of course, there are three different accounts in the Bible, but they are said to be the same event. They are in Joshua 11:11-15 and Judges 4:1-23 and a poetic account in Judges 5:1-31. Yadin's way to explain the apparent problem was to suggest that Deborah and Barak's story is a later editorial glossadded to authentic historical text (Yadin, Y. Hazor:The Rediscovery of a Great Citadel of the Bible Random House, New York 1975, pp.143-45) http://EvC Forum: Jericho and Ai: Fictional history in the Book of Joshua -->EvC Forum: Jericho and Ai: Fictional history in the Book of Joshua We are going round and round. You are the expert in archaeology, yet the reliance on a Bible text and its cancelation as "editorial" to validate your dating ? If true then no problem - just want to confirm. I will probably bow out concerning this point upon reading your response. Thanks, WT
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
quote: Do we know this for sure?
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Yes.
I do. BTW, Hi Hydarnes. Glad to see a smart creo around here. This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 08-13-2004 05:31 PM
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
Are you speaking generally or in certified terms?
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Actually, that source seems to imply a possible Israeli conquest in the mid-1200rds.
Yadin attributed this destruction layer to the Israelite campaigns led by Joshua and dated it to 1230 BCE. from Hydarnes link Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Experience with Brian.
We have different worldviews but so what. Brian is proven. We both admit our bias and say our bias is based on the evidence. This renders any challenge of bias irrelevant. Once again, glad to see you Hydarnes.
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
That link was to corroborate my claim about the destruction and rebuilding of the city, not to support my position on the dating.
At any rate, I think there remains uncertainly as to exactly when the city was destroyed by fire--the terminology is telling. But the fact that the archaeological evidence for the destruction tallies with the biblical record is rather compelling. This message has been edited by Hydarnes, 08-13-2004 05:36 PM
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
quote: Gotcha.
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Cold Foreign Object  Suspended Member (Idle past 3077 days) Posts: 3417 Joined: |
Hydarnes:
Why is there very little archaeological evidence of ancient Israel in Egypt ? I have a gem of an answer but I wish to withhold it for now.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I'm not sure how the mid 1200rds date tallies with the Bible, but I personally think there is a better chance of supporting an Exodus date around 1200 than one in the 1500s.
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Brian Member (Idle past 4988 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi,
The rebuilding in the links you provided happened long after the 1220 destruction level. Hazor was continually occupied from around 1750 - 1220 BCE, and it is because there is only one total destruction level where occupation came to an end that Yadin attributed this destruction to Joshua. The later building that is referred to in your links are in the solomonic period. Canaanite occupation of Hazor ended in 1220, the Book of Joshua claims Joshua ended Canaanite occupation of Hazor, there is only one level where this has happened. Therefore, either Joshua caused the 1220 destruction, or Joshua 11 is exaggerated, or Joshua had nothing to do with the 1220 destruction. Brian.
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Hydarnes Inactive Member |
quote: It doesn't. And I would like to know exactly what methodology is being used to date the burning of the city with that period.
quote: Not only would it not afford enough time for all of the Jewish events leading up to the time of David to occur, but it doesn't match the biblical dating methods.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17828 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Looking at the limited sources I have available it seesm that there has been a bit of a to-and-fro on the dating of that destruction layer. Lane Fox reports that the Mycenean pottery had been redated to ~1200 BC or later. Finkelstein states that the pottery indicates a date prior to the early thirteenth Century.
But if the Exodus occurred in the mid fifteenth Century BC as some people here have argued then Joshua's destruction would have to be in the early 14th century (maybe late 15th).
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