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Coyote
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Message 252 of 406 (491019)
12-10-2008 8:55 PM
Reply to: Message 249 by Dawn Bertot
12-10-2008 8:31 PM


Re: The true colours of Bertot the "Christian"
This is why concepts such as right, wrong, good and bad are relative, with no omnipotent deity to give them objectivity.
Objectivity? And you suggest that some deity provides objectivity?
Which one? There are some 4,200 extant world religions, and an untold number of extinct ones.
And how does one decide among those often conflicting religions, to determine which (if any) is correct? Evidence? The scientific method? Ouija board? Voices in one's head?
Later in your post, you wrote:
500 years ago it was acceptable to throw your children to the alligators, for purposes of worship, something you would abhor.
A couple of thousand years before that it apparently was acceptable to take your child and cut his gizzard out because some deity commanded it. Is that right, wrong, good, or bad?
I'll tell you: its wrong and bad. Why? Because it is anti-life, anti-survival, and anti-rational.
And I don't care what your, or any other, idols or demons say (or, more precisely, what some person claimed that those idols or demons said).
If you disagree with this, as I suspect you might, provide evidence to the contrary. And please, don't bother to provide as evidence what some person claimed the voices in his head told him.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 255 of 406 (491022)
12-10-2008 9:36 PM
Reply to: Message 254 by Dawn Bertot
12-10-2008 9:25 PM


Re: The true colours of Bertot the "Christian"
Wow, the heart that is behind this statement can be felt a long way away even from where you are sitting. There is alot of passion in it and that is good. Now if I could only get you to see that that passion is due to the fact that you have been raised in a certain enviornment, situation and circumstance that drives your passion. If this were 500 years ago, that same passion would be going in another direction,possibly from the positions which you now hold.
Correct, but in the last 500 years we have had The Enlightenment, which means we no longer have to kowtow to the various idols and demons, nor obey the various shamans who claim to speak for them lest we be tortured or burned at the stake.
And good riddance too.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 258 of 406 (491025)
12-10-2008 10:12 PM
Reply to: Message 257 by Dawn Bertot
12-10-2008 9:55 PM


Re: The true colours of Bertot the "Christian"
Oh you mean the enlightenment that kills children that are nearly completely formed and born, correct?
Abortion and infanticide go back much farther than that. And both still occur in areas not subject to the influence of The Enlightenment.
But The Enlightenment means that, in some parts of the world at least, shamans are no longer able to force their particular tribal beliefs on an entire population, as well as neighboring populations, with the thread of torture and burning at the stake.
I think that's a good thing. Don't you?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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