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Taz Member (Idle past 3320 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: |
Fuck you crashfrog for getting my hopes up. Romney is pulling ahead. We're doomed.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2979 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
Fuck you crashfrog for getting my hopes up. Romney is pulling ahead. We're doomed. I think you're taking this too serious. Can you explain how things really changed between Bush and Obama? And throw in there how you think things will really change with Romney. Not that I think Romney will win, but I'm curious how "we're doomed" will play itself out. - Oni
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
but I'm curious how "we're doomed" will play itself out. For one, it will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that politicians don't have to hide their lies. No longer will it be some "secret" that only people like us see. No, everyone sees this son of a bitch lie, on a national stage, then goes on to get away with it. It will prove that politicians can be openly and publicly two faced. Ok, maybe not doomed, but it's one hell of a scary precedent."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Straggler Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Aren't lies in the open less scary than lies behind closed doors?
Or (to be facetiously Rumsfeldian) would we prefer known unknowns or unknown unknowns?
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onifre Member (Idle past 2979 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined: |
For one, it will prove beyond a reasonable doubt that politicians don't have to hide their lies. I was already under this impression. Although, lets be honest, it won't prove it to those who don't think he was lying. Obama claimed he would close down Guantanamo within 6 months in office. Remember "Read my lips, no new taxes"...? If it hasn't been proven beyond a reasonable doubt that politicians can openly lie, you haven't been paying attention. - Oni
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 830 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
True, to an extent. But when their entire campaign flip flops on every position to the extent that they pretend they never held those positions and 95% of what they say in a presidential debate is fact checked to be false, that is a far cry from a few "lies".
Or are you saying Obama is just as much of a liar as Mittens?"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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onifre Member (Idle past 2979 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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Or are you saying Obama is just as much of a liar as Mittens? I'm saying all politicians are liars, and to pick one out for being "the most liar" is not really fair. Obama told his fair share of lies during his campaign and made promises he knew he could not keep so he could be elected. They all do that though, Mittens is no exception. The worse broken promise is of course to respect medical marijuana.
quote: - Oni
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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Here is the FUCKING DIFFERENCE:
Obama immediately changed the stem-cell research legality. If Romney is elected he will immediately change it back to being illegal.
THIS WILL HURT MY BROTHER, RAZD - HIS CHANCES OF STAYING ALIVE. Fuck that shit. This is where it gets personal. You vote for Romney - FUCK YOU. Vote SCIENCE, vote INTELLIGENCE, but please vote. OH WAIT! There is a whole shitload of OTHER stuff at stake. Supreme Court. Women's rights. The Republicans are so home-erectus with their dicks. Tokamak spare tires indeed. Good god they are so different. Fuck the Republicans.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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Taz Member (Idle past 3320 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined:
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Are you for real?
First of all, to say that they are all liars is the laziest way to go about this. This is an evolution vs creation debate forum. We see this kind of lazy thinking all the time. A horse can move from point A to point B 2 miles away. A car can do the same thing. A car must be the same as a horse. Oh, how about this. Don't tell me you've never lied before in your life. If you've ever lied, then technically you are a damn liar. Hitler was a liar, too. You must be on the same level as hitler. Have you ever eaten chicken? Sure you have. My dogs love to eat chicken. You must be the same as my dogs. You are down playing how shamelessly a liar Romney is by saying they're all liars and therefore they are all the same. But more importantly, when you made the statement that Obama hasn't kept some of his promises, you're assuming we elected him as the absolute emperor dictator of the country. Repeat after me, we didn't elect Obama to be the absolute dictator emperor of our country. Since you've eaten chicken and my dogs also have eaten chicken, you must be the same as my dogs. I don't suppose you want to play catch with me?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1495 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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Obama claimed he would close down Guantanamo within 6 months in office. He did, by executive order. Congress overruled him, remember?
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Straggler Member (Idle past 94 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Is there any point voting for a president who cannot get anything through congress?
Imagine that instead of some Obama-supporting-foreigner without a vote it is instead an undecided voter in a swing/close/key state asking you that question. How would you answer that question?
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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STRAG writes: Is there any point voting for a president who cannot get anything through congress? Errr, . . . the current president has the powers of a god. Each Tuesday (or is it 'assassination-Thursday'?) he meets with his staff to decide who to murder with impunity. It can be a 'terrorist', an innocent child, or even a fellow american. There are no congressional limits. I think americans should vote for the candidate who will likely murder the LEAST amount of children. IMO, zero children murdered would be best. Edited by dronester, : clarity Edited by dronester, : added "There are no congressional limits."
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That limitation is built into our system of government. The US Presidency is limited by design, as is Congress. The only body in the US system that is authoritative is the Supreme Court and it is even powerless to enforce its authority without the cooperation of the other two bodies.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Dronester writes:
It is a good thing that the Senate is clearly more powerful than a god then... Errr, . . . the current president has the powers of a god.Wow! America is run by politicians with super-powers! Dronester writes:
Luckily that allows people to vote for any of the candidates as none of them have committed murder. I think americans should vote for the candidate who will likely murder the LEAST amount of children. IMO, zero children murdered would be best.This can be easily seen by the lack of "arrested for murder" and the lack of "convicted of murder". Or do you have some more "secrets" that you wish to share with us about how Obama was "secretly" arrested and "secretly" convicted of murder?Actually, you probably do; there is no limit to the hate-filled bullshit you will make up. Edited by Panda, : No reason given."There is no great invention, from fire to flying, which has not been hailed as an insult to some god." J. B. S. Haldane
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dronestar Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: Member Rating: 6.4
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Panda writes: Luckily that allows people to vote for any of the candidates as none of them have committed murder. Phew, what a relief for the parent's of the HUNDREDS of children killed by Obama's directives that they were NOT murdered. Boy, the parents will surely be happy from this news.
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