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Author Topic:   Wyatt's Museum and the shape of Noah's Ark
Coragyps
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Message 166 of 303 (103591)
04-29-2004 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 163 by johnfolton
04-28-2004 11:55 PM


Re: Ahhhh...
THAT'S IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Ark was made of Gopher Wood and PACKED SOLID FULL OF TWO (seven pair??) OF EVERY BEAST WRAPPED IN ASBESTOS!!!!
You've solved it, whatever! That's how it floated! It was packed full and didn't need bracing! And that's how the animals withstood that 800-degree rainstorm! They were INSULATED! They had ram pumps pumping air in their nostrils! The air pressure forced the poop out the other end, through tubes, to the poopdeck and then overboard! Call Answers in Genesis! Call the Institute for Creation Research! Stop the presses!
I'm going to bed now.

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Message 167 of 303 (103592)
04-29-2004 12:16 AM
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04-29-2004 12:07 AM


Re: Ahhhh... so ...
They were covered with asbestos - why the dust was toxic even tho they said it was safe (riiight). Built just before the regs outlawing asbestos were enacted.
And yes, for some reason the engineers never envisaged a jet full of fuel being placed suddenly into the structure in their calculations. A major oversight that I'm sure will cost them their future life savings.
whatever bulwhah again.

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RAZD
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Message 168 of 303 (103594)
04-29-2004 12:19 AM
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04-29-2004 12:14 AM


Re: Ahhhh...
ROFL

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Message 169 of 303 (103599)
04-29-2004 12:24 AM
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04-29-2004 12:05 AM


While the earth remaineth, there will be seedtime and harvest.
Jar, You know I just love those conspiracy theories, etc... Like what have the environmentalists done, adding MTBE to the gas so to pollute all the freshwater, causing the price of gas to rise, cutting supply (not enough refineries built to keep up to demand) to raise the price of gas off supply and demand, etc...
P.S. Maybe we should send all the environmentalists to Mexico city so they can see how they are saving the planet, etc...It doesn't matter, God told Noah that there would be seed time and harvest, night and cold, day and night, while the earth remaineth, etc... It's his Word (kjv genesis 8:22), etc...
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Message 170 of 303 (103605)
04-29-2004 12:36 AM
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04-29-2004 12:24 AM


Like what have the environmentalists done, adding MTBE to the gas so to pollute all the freshwater, causing the price of gas to rise, cutting supply (not enough refineries built to keep up to demand) to raise the price of gas off supply and demand, etc...
There's more than enough refineries.
The people choking the gas supply are Bush's rich Saudi friends, so that they can lower them right before the election. Doesn't it bother anybody else that our president is conspiring with foreign nationals to manipulate US elections?
I'm no conspiracy theorist, or at least I wasn't until this guy took office. It's one thing to have a healthy disregard for most conspiracies but I really do believe that the folks we have in office are actually capable, professionally and morally, of just about any act whatsoever.
OT rant over and out.

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RAZD
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Message 171 of 303 (103626)
04-29-2004 1:21 AM
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04-28-2004 11:14 PM


Re: Well... how about back on topic eh?
spokes are good for tension loads
very bad for compression loads
the rim in contact with the road deforms slightly flatter forcing the rest of the rim to open a bit, countered by the pull of the spokes.
this is why hitting curbs is a bad idea, espescially at speed.
the best shape for the hull would be curved as then the compressive force of the water acts to force the seams between timbers together. think of an eggshell.
a flat surface on the otherhand will bend inward, increasing the distance to be covered and open the seams. This would also be the problem with the moonpool of course, especially just above the hull joint.

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Message 172 of 303 (103627)
04-29-2004 1:23 AM
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04-29-2004 1:21 AM


Re: Well... how about back on topic eh?
Are you sure you weren't an engineer in another life?

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Bonobojones
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Message 173 of 303 (103936)
04-29-2004 8:11 PM
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04-27-2004 12:39 PM


Re: More bad ideas
Maybe Noah used big honking Dorade boxes on his "yacht". Can ya see him now, topside, polishing those humungus cowl vents.
Whatever needs to take a decent boatbuilding course, with some naval architecture thrown in.

Reunite Gondwana!

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Message 174 of 303 (103993)
04-29-2004 11:10 PM
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04-29-2004 8:11 PM


If one takes the bible literally, Noah had Iron and brass, the main beam going across the bottom only need to be reinforced with iron, it wasn't built like a sail boat, if its water line was 35 feet of water, Noah was instructe to build rooms within the ark, so this would of internally strenthened the hull, even so there wouldn't of been great stresses on the hull, because there wouldn't off been hull pounding, just waters flowing laminally around the hull, the only way the bottom of a reinforced hull would be pounded by the waves is if it rode high in the water and the waves started pounding the bottom of the hull as it crashed through the waves, the whole basis was simply a slow floating barge self aligning to continually cut into the wave, so any flow would flow around the hull, so hull pounding either from the side or the bottom wouldn't of been a problem.
P.S. The bible says that God told Noah to build an ark shaped boat with rooms within, makes me want to take one of them sea cruises on boats designed quite similarly to Noah's ark, etc...

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RAZD
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Message 175 of 303 (104004)
04-29-2004 11:53 PM
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04-29-2004 8:11 PM


Re: More bad ideas
To say nothing of the bilge pumping system. Head pumps are bad enough for clogging, imagine the effect of 100 lbs per day of elephant dung ... per elephant.
His ideas might also be refined by a little experience on board a boat in a major storm (which would be insignificant to the deluge plus tectonic plate shifting tsunamis). In the roaring 40's would be good too.
Then add in the {keelsons on steroids} with the {nunchuk anchor stones}.

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Message 176 of 303 (104006)
04-30-2004 12:01 AM
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04-29-2004 11:53 PM


Re: More bad ideas
RAZD
I realize this is slightly off topic but whatever happened to all the other boats, those that had been designed and used to sail the Med and other seas? What happened to all the experienced sailors from all over the world that had been sailing in storms and seas, carrying freight and animals all over the world?
I never have quite been able to understand all that.

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Message 177 of 303 (104022)
04-30-2004 12:48 AM
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04-29-2004 11:53 PM


Raz, Thought you already answered the elephant wastes, you said the ark wasn't a submarine, so they shoveled the heavy wastes out the side, kinda like farmers do today, the bilge wastes could of been siphoned out so the ark, the moonpool could of provided forced air ventilation, though its more likely, due to them windows across the top of the ark with a roof above the windows, so heat rises and cooler air settles, natural ventilation, etc...

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RAZD
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Message 178 of 303 (104032)
04-30-2004 1:02 AM
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04-30-2004 12:01 AM


Re: More bad ideas
I'll leave that to whatever ... he has all those other animals flaoting around on masses of floating trees, what's a few boats? LOL

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RAZD
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Message 179 of 303 (104033)
04-30-2004 1:02 AM
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04-30-2004 12:48 AM


Re:
so we are back up floating high and dry now? what happened to those bow anchors?

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Message 180 of 303 (104046)
04-30-2004 1:19 AM
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Raz, Those anchor stones found by Ron Wyatt are quite interesting, though they were quite large, they were not heavy enough to create ballast, they just added stability, and acted as the rudder so to speak, etc...
P.S. Your square wave tusami must of wiped out all boats built near the sea, Noah's boat built on dry land, it was too big to move, thats why the people were mocking Noah building a boat that needed water to float, it was to far away from any waters, (it must of been quite a site)(Noah working his tail off pitching the boat(kinda a nasty job), (the best drama show in the land), etc...), Imagine Noah said things like God will provide the water, its quite a story, kinda paralleling today, though this time it says the earth will be destroyed by fire(2 Peter 3:10-13), a new heaven (the elements in the atmosphere will be burned with fervent heat, and earth too), the seas will be no more, in the New Jerusalem that will come down out of the heavens after Judgement day, like the Lord Jesus said, in my Fathers house are many mansions, I go to prepare a place for you, so where I am you shall be also, its like the OUR FATHER, where it says thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven, the New Jerusalem 1,500 miles by 1,500 miles coming down out of heaven and setting on the new earth, as the flood cleansed the earth, it will be cleansed with fire, before judgement day, after Judgment day, then given God controls gravity, this massive city will set down on the earth, and the earth will abide forever, The city will have no need of the sun,or the moon to shine in it: for glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof kjv genesis 21:23, etc...
though you must of seen the paleontologists testimony evidence for your square wave tusuami (I repost the link for you all), like you said these waves are are much worse than the perfect storm, etc...
Atlantisquest.com
The evidence of the violence of nature combined with the stench of rotting carcasses was staggering. The ice fields containing these remains stretched for hundred of miles in every direction (Hibben, 1946). Trees and animals, layers of peat and mosses, twisted and mangled together like some giant mixer had jumbled them some 10,000 years ago, and then froze them into a solid mass. The evidence immediately suggests an enormous tidal wave which raged over the land, tumbling animals and vegetation within its mass, which was then quick-frozen (Sanderson, 1960). But the extinction is not limited to the Arctic.
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