Wyatt's Museum and the shape of Noah's Ark

Raz, I not partial to your parachute like sea anchors, and the short ropes attached to the sea anchor stones (would not short ropes with stone in your senerio bash holes into the ark), not sure how deep a wave base goes, but with longer ropes, if the ark was anchored below the wave base it would of acted like a brake, looks to me that your parachutes anchors keep the boat pointed with the waves, but wouldn't act as a brake, not that there was much wind, but whatever waves would of pushed the ark, however with sea anchors anchored below the wave, would of acted like a brake, keeping the ark from being blown out into the Pacific ocean, where the waters would of been salt (a big problem to watering the animals on the ark), not freshwater like over the continents, etc...P.S. With all this global warming, perhaps the Paleontologist fossils are no longer stinking, just found it interesting that one of your own said it appeared to be a monster wave, supporting your contention that any square like wave tusami happened, and mine that it happened before the waters started rising up covering the entire earth, though the oceans are the evidence that there is more than enough water in the oceans themselves, for the flood waters to of covered the entire earth over 1/2 mile in water, supporting the highest mountains before the rose higher in height were covered by 30 cubits of water, etc...P.S. With longer ropes, likely why the ark got snagged by the mountains of Ararat, and not washing out to the Oceans as the waters flowed by the mountain to the sea (kjv psalm 104).

Jar, I have no idea for sure the anchor stone were attached to the bow, but it makes sense to me, for if they were anchored below the wave base, would not the bow face into the wave, if so the anchor stones would not be bashing the boat, and this would be preventing the ropes from getting all tangled up too, etc...P.S. I'm kinda wingin it, but if the waves were not too great, and they were flowing over the waters below the wave base, wouldn't sea anchors keep the bow pointed into the waves. Your all assuming the waves were excessive, it probably wasn't the case and the sea anchors would of kept the bow pointed into the wave, its the ballast that would of pulled the bow under the waves which given the height of the boat seems unlikely, and the sea anchors would of been in front of the bow acting like a sea brake, its the same principle as the trout facing into the stream, you all seem to be having the trout anchored by its tail, perhaps with a boat as light as a sail boat you have to run and hope your sea anchor will slow you, but would think it more in keeping with the reason God told Noah to build an ark, was based off the design he used to design the creatures of the sea, the trout always faces into the current, wiggles a little bit to maintain position, think your all trying to put the cart ahead of the horse, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 04-30-2004]

Raz, The anchor stones would of kept the bow pointing into the waves, the ark was approximately 54 feet high, so the wave would of flowed around the arked design, it would make the ride extremely stable, the anchor stones would of stayed ahead of the bow, acting as a brake, kinda opposite like how you supposed it all happened, etc...P.S. Ron Wyatt really must of had someone quite knowledgeable to come up with the anchor stones on the bow (quite interesting), I would of thought they would of been on the tail, but it all makes sense when one considers the trout, always facing into the stream without hardly a wiggle, etc...

Rocket, With the sea anchors anchored below the waves, in the water below the waves flowing above, the waves would continually be pressing against the sea anchors, keeping the sea anchors ahead of the bow, no different that towing a vessel, but the waves flowing above would be pressing the ark with the waves, but the anchors would be keeping the ropes taunt, while not actually towing the ark, its preventing it from being hit by a wave from the side, and acting as a sea brake, etc...P.S. I don't doubt smaller boats hook a sea drouge with a long rope, by its tail would brake the boat too, just don't think necessarily this was how the ark operated, etc...

jar, It appears it makes more sense based off fluid dynamics for the head not the tail to be facing into the current, if I had a powered ocean boat, I'd sure rather keep the bow into the current, etc...P.S. Ron believed the ark had a hull pool, lots of interesting theories, etc...Its interesting though the sea anchor stones found in the near vicinity of the Ark's fossil imprint in the sand, etc...

It appears Ron Wyatt lowered hull pool (moon pool) solves all the waste disposal problems, leakage problems within the ark. Interestingly is the very scientific reasoning being used by the Japanese to generate electricity in their wave powered buoy's. They compressed the air within a partially submerged buoy with a turbine spinning in the vent, the wave continually compresses the air in the buoy, so this makes my hinged intake exhaust vents a go, though it probably only needed a way to draw air in and out, to lower the moon pool, interestingly its a scientific fact, etc...P.S. If your able to access this link check out 3.1, amazingly science is actually using Ron Wyatts lowered moon pool to generate electricity off the wave energies compressing the air within an enclosed submerged buoy's, etc...[PDF] Feasibility of Developing Wave Power as a Renewable Energy ...File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
... Apart from wave-powered navigation buoys, however, most of the prototypes have been placed at or near the shore [3]. Land-based systems include the tapered ...
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Rocket, I agree whatever direction the wave currents were flowing, would of provided the tension on the sea anchors below the wave base, the ark wasn't a sail boat (not much exposed for the wind to blow), and appears it might of had a lowered moon pool so any water leaking into the vents on top of the ark, as it crashed into the waves wouldn't of been a problem as it would only flow to the lowered moon pool, the winds wouldn't turn the ark, cause it was being held fast by the anchor stones, and was likely riding too low in the water (part submarine), etc...

Rocket, God told Noah to build rooms within the ark, he had iron and brass to strengthen stresses, the length should of been supported by the waters if it was a low rider, etc...P.S. Sailboats are now turning to water ballast, kinda like submarines, would simple water ballast on the lower level, compartmentalized to reduce sloshing, strengthen the hull, and valves to drain excess ballast to the lowered moon pool, for ride, etc...

The japanese buoy (interestingly with a hole in its bottom and its vent, it does not sink), just because it compresses and decompresses, doesn't mean its only compressing, even so, it does however make the hinged air intake idea quite functional, with sucking excess air in but a restricted outlet vent (wave power), etc... I mean Ron Wyatt appears right about them sea anchors, no reason he didn't hit the nail on the head in respect to them lowered moon pools, etc...P.S. I'm satisfied, (even if your all not) that them sea anchors are actually evidence in support of Noah's ark, the biblical deluge, its really quite the video, etc...Ron Wyatt couldn't of planted them sea anchors, kinda interesting that Noah made his sea anchors out of stone, kinda makes one wonder if Seths geneologies built the Giza pyramid, pre-flood, like the Spinx, sure looks like it went through the biblical deluge, and if the Giza pyramid was built on a granite foundation, it would of survived the flood, like it's believed it has slip foundations built into its base (so it can survive earthquakes), though its believed to of been built by the Eygptians by the Eygptians, though wonder if they just copied it, the Sphinx's sure looks like it was eroded by the biblical deluge, etc...Like Jesus is the cornerstone, just thought it all interesting, cause it just might of been where the ark started its journey, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 05-01-2004]

Raz, It does appear Noah copied the fishes of the sea, in respect to the orintation of his sea anchors, so the bow would always point into the waves, just like the mighty trout always facing into the current, etc...P.S. If I had a sail boat without power with a lot of upper levels exposed to the wind, I too would throw out your parachute anchors and turn tail and run, its an entirely different situation, where putting drouge sea anchors to the bow would only put you at the mercy of the winds, etc...Rocket, In respect to the ark, drag would of been a good thing, it wasn't built for speed, but agree the anchor stones purpose wasn't to be the arks ballast, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 05-01-2004]

Raz,I think we've argued this into the ground, I've got my moon pools lowered, and grateful for you explaining how the anchor stones are off the bow, makes perfect sense, for it all allows the ark to be part submarine(water ballast), and still float, for stones would of settled below the wave base, actually acting like a brake, anchored in waters not moving below the wave base, so the waves would be pushing the bow and not the tail, It is sure interesting how the sciences behind an enclosed moon pool is being used to generate electricity in those japanese buoy's, etc...P.S. The ark probably could of survived the perfect storm cause it wasn't designed like any other boat, likely submarining through a square wave, because of the anchor stones off the bow, etc... I know your going to disagree, but think its time to take a rest, got my moon pools back, thank God for them Japanese buoy's, etc...

Raz, Thought I saw on some documentary, that submarines in a hurricane simply dive below the waves on the surface, a couple of hundred feet down, so would think waves are the surface that your concerned about, and to be anchored beneath these waters, rather that to be anchored in these waters, etc...Your parachutes would of been anchored in the wave not below the wave by your picture, perhaps why Noah used stones (stones would sink), etc...I do like those japanese buoy's for electricity generation, its not a fantasy, they are actually being built, harnessing the wave energy, they have a moon pool, and don't sink, we don't know for sure if the ark had a moon pool, those darn people in Turkey wouldn't let Ron Wyatt dig an archeological tell of the site, kinda conflicting cause they said they didn't believe its the ark, it kinda a shame, cause Ron would of known what to be looking for, to confirm the moon pool, by fossil imprinted evidence's, I agree that the japanese buoy's scientifically support's my fantasy, a moon pool chamber not sinking off the wave energies(awesome), this means an inclosed boat can have a moon pool and not sink if properly designed, this opens the door to the RAM pumps being utilized to the providing of running water, all possible thousands of years ago, simple water ballasts, etc...P.S. I'm just going to agree to disagree with your fantasies too, etc... I'm tired of this string, but grateful that you helped me understand the importance of the anchor stones being on the bow of the boat, if Ron Wyatt was correct in that the ark had a moon pool, and a separate internal ballast, kinda makes sense though that all the creatures crawled up a sprial walkway, around the moon pool to gain entrance into the ark, and once closing the side door, it would simply been a part of the moon pool, etc...

Raz, I never thought of it that way, do you think its possible with sea anchors anchored below the waves, that the ark too never moved, if the ark wasn't in currents, etc...If so then it explains why the sea anchors appear native to the area, though the rocks should be tested, to confirm if they are native or not, too many questions, but it would support that the winds didn't blow until after the flood water stopped raining, and that the ark got snagged in the mountains of Ararat before the currents could wash the ark to the sea, as the waters flowed by gravity continually to the sea (the valleys prepared by God for the waters), (kjv psalm 104:8), etc...Where I'm from we're worried at times by the direction of the wind blowing the surface estuary waters down the throat of the estuary and causing a potential flood watch, waters piling, driven by the winds, so if the water in the wave is not moving above the lower waters, how come the waters pile, it seems to me that the water in the waves are driven by the winds, etc...P.S. The moon pool would act as an air pump, so it would work fine for building internal pressures, to the lowering of the moon pool level, if it dove into a wave, it wouldn't be sucking air, the air pressure would be bleeding out the restricted roof vents, and when it rose out of the wave it would suck air, excess water leakage flowing to the lowered moon pool, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 05-01-2004]

I kinda accept your wave thing, sorta supports the anchor stones being native, with the waters continually erupting out the atlantic mid ocean ridges (hydroplate theory), you wouldn't have a continuous world fetch, it would simply be pressing the waters back, like piling up of the waters with a wind, this doesn't support your unrestricted fetch, as it would run into a massive pile up of waters pressed back by the erupting waters near the mid-ocean ridges, etc...I feel it would be more forced air ventilation, the animals heat causing the lower air to rise (cattle, and larger creatures on lower levels, and birds on higher levels to aid ballast and ventilation), and the cooler air drawn in causing normal ventilation, as the moon pool chamber level fluctuations drawing in and exhausting air. If the ark didn't have a moon pool, cool air would settle through roof vents and hot air would exhaust, but with forced air ventilation, it would work in tandom with the moon pool air pump, with no restriction on air drawn in, but restrictions on amount of air exhaled, it could be adjusted to maintain desired moon pool level, etc...If the moon pool level drops because of an increase in air pressure within the ark, then you wouldn't need a RAM pump to siphon wastes out the side, though it would be great to have an ark that had running water to flush wastes, to the lowered moon pool, and water for the creatures. With a greater pressure in the ark, you could also simply siphon wastes out the roof with no problem, pressure greater inside than outside the ark, etc...[This message has been edited by whatever, 05-01-2004]

Raz, I don't see deep underwater currents like world wide fetch happening, cause the oceans dropped and the mountains rose, so the waters over the continents would just flow back to the sea, kinda begs the question would the surface waters flow faster than the waters 200 feet down, meaning the anchor stones might still of kept the ark pointed into the current, but likely little underwater fetch occurring, kinda like whats happening at Niagra Falls, all this water flowing over the falls, but likely not affecting any undercurrents until the water gets close to the Falls, etc...P.S. The bible doesn't say the ark had a moon pool, it didn't say it had anchor stones, but that doesn't mean it didn't have them, we will probably never know in this life, but it makes the bible a bit more interesting, that Ron wasn't pulling our leg that its possible to have a moon pool, the Japanese are capitalizing on this principle in generating electricity on their buoy's, etc... I just see no other reason for them anchor stones being found in the vicinity of the Ark, too me, it means the ark was snagged by the mountains of Ararat, and that all the ropes broke causing the anchor stones to be strewn over a 12 to 14 mile area, except for the one anchor stone found near the ark , giving more credibility too me that Ron Wyatt actually found Noah's ark, etc...