In Message #1, Edward contends (among a whole lot of other contentious contentions) that Revelation 5:5 uses a Greek word for "book" meaning "a roll," and that the English word "roll" comes from the Latin "rota" meaning "wheel." This is but one of the farfetched contentions that has led the discussion to 28 posts.
Actually, Revelation 5:5 reads as follows in Greek, "Kai eiv ek twn presbuterwn legei moi, Mh klaie; idou enikhsen o lewn o ek thv fulhv Iouda, h riza Dauid, anoicai to biblion kai tav epta sfragidav autou."
As one can see, the word "biblion" refers to BOOK, scroll, or other written document ... not a WHEEL.
Also note the word "sfragidav" or "sphragis" which is specifically a "seal" (not an icon) used to make a wax impression on a closed scroll, book, letter, or other document. The word also signifies the signet ring making the impression, as well as the proof of authenticity conveyed by the seal or token.
And really, since the Greek is there for all to see, there is no reason to belabor the issue by pointing out that "Leon" means "lion" or "bold warrior," "Dauiod" is "Dabid" the second king of Judah, and "Iuoda" is "Yudah" the fourth son of "Yakov" the patriarch of the 12 Tribes.
Nice try Eddie ... it's been very entertaining. You and Zsafira should team up next time. Maybe meet at the donut shop first for some bear claws and a couple of pots of high-octane coffee.
This message has been edited by Abshalom, 06-07-2004 04:30 PM