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Loudmouth
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Message 9 of 13 (120901)
07-01-2004 4:49 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Melchior
07-01-2004 4:08 PM


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You seem to say that it's okay that the universe creates God, instead of God creating the universe.
I have recently reread Greg Bear's Eon and Eternity (the second book could be "Infinity", I always forget the two names confused). In these books, humans travel along a wormhole like construction that is temporal in nature. They travel so far down this construction that they end up at the beginning of the universe. In doing so the run into other species/beings that were already there and together they create a new universe through what they learn from those entities. I am not saying that this is a reflection on reality, but it does pose an interesting question. To paraphrase Arthur C. Clarke, "A substantially advanced technology may appear as magic."
That is, what we sense as supernatural may just be advanced technology. What we consider impossible or implausible may very well be possible, but only inaccessible through our current theories and technologies. What we sense as supernatural may only be the destiny of human kind given enough time to understand the rules that govern the universe, and the time enough to develop the tools to manipulate these rules. What we ascribe to a diety may be within our (ie humanities) reach.
However, we would still remain physical entities of some sort. If we are to manipulate matter/energy/space/time, then we must also be within the confines of those constructs. If the God of current human religion is able to manipulate the universe, then He to must be of this universe. At least, this is my philosophical stance.

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Loudmouth
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Message 12 of 13 (120976)
07-01-2004 8:36 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Mission for Truth
07-01-2004 7:20 PM


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Which would make him subject to natural laws as well?
With the understanding that I am talking out of my ass, yes it would. The point is that we may not yet understand the full extent of natural laws, or how they can be manipulated by an entity that is fully within our universe.

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