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Mespo
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Message 62 of 145 (124705)
07-15-2004 12:02 PM


I own chickens, Redwolf
..and guess what, they can FLY!
I bought them direct from the hatchery for the egg-laying abilities, so they didn't "pollute" themselves with other varieties. They are allowed to free range. They go about the barn yard and pastures and eat what they want. They are tagged and I've had neighbors call from several miles away asking if I want such and such a chicken back.
"Just let her be, she'll fly home to roost in the evening. Let me know if she trashed your garden and I'll compensate you".
But for the most part, they stick around because that's where the rooster is and guarenteed safe roosting. And by allowing to free range, they keep their ideal body weight which means they can haul ass if they have to (HAWKS, DOGS, CHILDREN UNDER 4 FEET).
(:raig

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Mespo
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From: Mesopotamia, Ohio, USA
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Message 92 of 145 (124992)
07-16-2004 12:27 PM


Orange chickens and Apple ducks
Redwolf writes:
I never said chickens couldn't fly; I said, they couldn't fly DECENTLY. They can't fly terribly far, terribly high, or terribly fast. You don't see them 500' overhead the way you do normal birds.
Ducks for instance are ballpark for the same size as chickens, and fly perfectly well because their wings are the right size for ducks.
If there were anything to evolution, chickens would regain the ability to fly as well as ducks fly. There isn't, and they don't
There is no human record saying that chickens were ever good flyers. They were domesticated from Thailand many thousands of years ago and spread from there. (Why did the chicken cross the road?) If you check your geography of that area you'll find much of Thailand was (is?) dense tropical jungle. Strong, fast flying birds don't do well in dense vegetation. Chickens, on the other hand have strong legs that enable them to run fast through dense undergrowth to flee predators with flying as a secondary strategy. Those legs and claws will also be used to attack your face if cornered. Cockfight anyone? And chickens don't migrate, so they have no need for a strong flying ability.
Ducks on the otherhand are migratory, but they can't run for beans. Strong flight characteristics are essential for survival as well as their swimming abilities.
And just what the heck is a "normal bird"? I guess humming birds aren't normal 'cause they can fly backwards. And road runners aren't normal 'cause they don't have to fly to get away from Wile E. Coyote (*beep beep*).
(:raig

  
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