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Author Topic:   Homosexuality Vs. Heterosexuality
Dan Carroll
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Message 14 of 56 (145962)
09-30-2004 10:10 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by dpardo
09-29-2004 8:10 PM


I value their input from the perspective that they have direct experience with the subject matter and can offer evidence to support or refute assertions made here.
Your only assertion was that a gay couple couldn't last, because their relationships exist outside holy scriptures. The existence of long-term gay couples refutes this.
What else, exactly, do you want?

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 15 of 56 (145963)
09-30-2004 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Silent H
09-30-2004 6:55 AM


The first is that it seemed you were saying that hetero relationships don't work whereas a gay one would.
If you check out dpardo's posts from the other thread, he was saying that a heterosexual relationship is the only way to go if you want things to last. I'm gonna take a guess that all Rei meant was "that's funny, because my girlfriend's hetero relationships didn't work, and her homosexual one has."
If I'm wrong she can correct me, but that's the reading I took from it.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 24 of 56 (146087)
09-30-2004 1:32 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by dpardo
09-30-2004 1:03 PM


I would like to know what their "secret" to staying together has been?
It's an amazing secret, heretofore only know by Freemasons and Shriners. Now, I share it with you. It's called "love".
Seriously, dpardo, I'd strongly reccomend you get out there and meet some gay couples. You'll be amazed to discover that the average gay couple is no different from the average straight couple. They bicker, they screw, they laugh, they kiss, they crack dumb jokes at movies, and they annoy their single friends by being happy.
Some couples work, some don't. The ones that work, last. There's no secret, no matter what genitals are involved.
Are they happy?
Are they fulfilled?
Sure. Why would they be in a relationship that long if they weren't?
Do they question their behavior?
No. Why would they?

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 29 of 56 (146101)
09-30-2004 1:49 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by dpardo
09-30-2004 1:48 PM


The people in question are smart enough to know that if their relationship is making them both unhappy and leaving them both unfulfilled, then it should be ended.
However, to directly answer your question... yes. They are happy and fulfilled.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 32 of 56 (146112)
09-30-2004 2:06 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by dpardo
09-30-2004 1:59 PM


If we had these couples direct input, we could examine it. Do you believe you are knowledgeable enough about these folks that you can speak for them?
They're friends, (or friends of the family, rather) and I have no reason to doubt their word that they are happy and fulfilled. Do you put every relationship up to this kind of scrutiny?
To put it another way... what reason do you have to assume that they might be unhappy and unfulfilled?
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 09-30-2004 01:08 PM

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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Dan Carroll
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Message 33 of 56 (146118)
09-30-2004 2:24 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by dpardo
09-30-2004 1:59 PM


I think the problem here is that you seem to be working from a basic assumption that a gay relationship must have severe flaws. So if someone brings up a happy gay couple, your reaction is to say "well, let's put them under a microscope slide, and find out where the flaws are. Because I assure you, they're there."
It doesn't work that way. If you want us to assume that a relationship that is, by all appearances, happy, healthy, and functional, is in fact none of the above, then you need to give us a reason to do so.

"If I had to write ten jokes about potholders, I don't think I could do it. But I could write ten jokes about Catholicism in the next twenty minutes. I guess I'm drawn to religion because I can be provocative without harming something people really care about, like their cars."
-George Meyer, Simpsons writer

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