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dpardo Inactive Member |
This topic came up in another thread called "What is 'Intellectual Dishonesty'?".
Continuing where we left off...
Dan Carroll writes: "I think it'd be great if you could explain how they're still together, despite your statement that the absence of God would prevent the union from lasting.Their input shouldn't matter. They are homosexual... they are still together. Your earlier statement doesn't provide for any exceptions." I value their input from the perspective that they have direct experience with the subject matter and can offer evidence to support or refute assertions made here.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Rei writes: "...she had dated only men. What were these relationships like?" * One left her as soon as she became pregnant (she later miscarried) Was she married at the time? If not, why not?
"* One left her little choice about whether they were going to have sex or not." A rape?
"*One was terminally depressed and always self-effacing." Why was she involved with this guy? Is she now in the state that she is physically attracted to women? Is she physically not attracted to men? Has she become sexually involved with you because you are comforting and loving her.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
I'm going off-line now and may not be able to respond to new posts till tomorrow.
Please note that it is not my intention to attack you (Rei) or that this thread become hostile. I am interested in discussing the factors involved in your choice of lifestyle (insofar as you are comfortable divulging information), and other people's thoughts and views on the subject.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Rei writes: "Oh please, don't play this as if most Christians don't have sex before marriage, either. I can bring up state-by-state statistics on out-of-wedlock pregnancies, if you'd like - if I recall, the south was the worst." I didn't ask for that purpose. The reason I asked is that pre-marital sex is wrong (according to the bible) even if it is done by Christian heterosexual couples. Engaging in sexual relations joins two people on a level that was intended for married individuals. This is one of the reasons that a break-up is so much more devastating to an individual when there was sexual activity involved.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: "Your only assertion was that a gay couple couldn't last, because their relationships exist outside holy scriptures. The existence of long-term gay couples refutes this. What else, exactly, do you want? I would like to know what their "secret" to staying together has been? Are they happy? Are they fulfilled? Do they question their behavior?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Charles Knight writes: "...Other girlfriends, we were at it like rabbits and I wasn't that bothered." Did you break off those relationships or did they?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
In the ones that were broken off by them, were you hurt?
In the ones that you broke off, were they hurt?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Charles Knight writes: "You seem to be on a bit of a fishing trip to establish your point. However I've already explained that the one I never slept with hurt the most - that negates your point (in my case at least) does it not?" If you can honestly say that you weren't bothered much by those break-ups where you were not the instigator, I will concede that, in your case, my point seems to be negated. But, to the extent that continual sin hardens the heart, you may have felt progressively less hurt as you broke off those relationships. Can you say, with any degree of accuracy, that you know how much hurt the girls that you terminated the relationship with felt?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: "Sure. Why would they be in a relationship that long if they weren't?" Just because two people stay together doesn't imply that they are happy, fulfilled, etc.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll writes: "The people in question are smart enough to know that if their relationship is making them both unhappy and leaving them both unfulfilled, then it should be ended." There are many couples that are unhappily/unfilfilled together for reasons that we don't know. If we had these couples direct input, we could examine it. Do you believe you are knowledgeable enough about these folks that you can speak for them?
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dpardo Inactive Member |
I understand your points.
Perhaps Rei can add her first-hand experience with the subject matter.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
No.
My purpose would be that we could question her to attempt to gather first-hand information.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Charles Knight writes: "any chance of an answer to number 27?" Yes. Yes.
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dpardo Inactive Member |
Actually Rei, those questions you answered were directed to Dan Carroll, although I would have asked you also.
It is not my intent to lecture you, I will try to be careful how I phrase things. What are Elaine's responses to those questions?
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