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Author Topic:   Problems with Chromosomal Evolution - From Circular to Linear
jt
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Message 34 of 58 (137242)
08-26-2004 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by crashfrog
08-26-2004 4:51 PM


It seems to me that since all enzymes do is reduce the activation energy of certain chemical reactions, there could easily be a complexity gradient - i.e. you might have two enzymes with active binding sites for the same molecules, but one of them is able to catalyze the reaction at a lower activation energy than the other.
True, once an enxyme is working it could be improved on (although for most enzymes I'm guessing it would take large changes to change anything and keep it functional). But the step from functional to non-functional protein or enzyme is what I was talking about when I said "hurdle."

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jt
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Message 35 of 58 (137245)
08-26-2004 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Loudmouth
08-26-2004 6:05 PM


Re: probability
Given this example, it is quite possible that the first telomerase could have arisen from one single mutation that was not planned and accidental just as we have observed in the nylon bug.
This is another thing I'll have to research. I'm still working on your other post about t-loops, I'll post a reply to that soon-ish (I think).
You guys sure have a knack for making me spend inordinate amounts of time researching. Probably a standard evilutionist tactic...

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jt
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Message 43 of 58 (137478)
08-27-2004 5:59 PM


Everybody,
I'm leaving on a two week or so vacation in a couple days, so this'll be my last post for a while. When I get back I'll keep researching all the arguments, and hopefully soon after my return I'll start rebutting them.
Later,
JT

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jt
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Message 45 of 58 (137530)
08-27-2004 10:21 PM
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08-27-2004 6:30 PM


Re: Have Fun
Thanks, I will. Although having your guys' arguments floating around in my head for two weeks without my having a rebuttal is going to drive me nuts...
Also, you guys can post as much as you want in this thread, the more the better. I'll just start where I left off and work through it. (I appreciate your consideration, though.)
Later,
JT

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jt
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Message 53 of 58 (151248)
10-20-2004 12:37 AM


I'm back (sort of)
Hey guys,
Sorry for taking so long to respond - I'm very busy with school (I'm taking calc 2, physics, and chemistry, in addition to tutoring part time in the math lab), and I probably won't have enough time to respond the posts in this thread until a big, long break. Actually, I don't have enough time to participate in any thread which requires research, which means pretty much none of the science threads. (Loudmouth, if you read this, I saw your HERVs thread - very well written, and that is one of the arguments that currently has me stumped. I want to learn more about it and discuss/debate it with you, and I will when I have the time)
Just wanted to let y'all know that I didn't bug off into outer space or anything.
JT
This message has been edited by JT, 10-19-2004 11:38 PM

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jt
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Message 55 of 58 (151265)
10-20-2004 12:49 AM
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10-20-2004 12:44 AM


Re: Sort of???
Aside of here, yes. Aside of school, only a little.

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jt
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Message 57 of 58 (151477)
10-20-2004 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 56 by pink sasquatch
10-20-2004 4:10 PM


Re: I'm back (sort of)
I just "back into town" myself - if you feel there are loose ends in this thread you still want to discuss, let me know...
I still want to discuss the potential for t-loops to have been the evolutionary bridge between circular and linear chromosomes. When I get the time I'll definitely be tying that up (hopefully by clearly emerging as victor - possibly by winding up the loser - of this debate).
Very good advice - almost.

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