Buz:
... and get specific.
Ned:
About what?
About the specific post that is allegedly in error and specifically what in that post that is false.
Where you were in error?
See? There you go again. Where I was in error and what specific thing in my post was erroneous?
I didn't see you agree that you should not have brought up the 2nd law. Then dragging it out compounded that error.
Why, pray tell, should I agree that I shouldn't have debated the
TOPIC on the basis of
MY OWN creationist ideology and not on your ideology??
Buz Message 8:
The more complexity which science has discovered and researched, the more I consider NS to be utterly impossible and the evidence of an existing infinitely super-intelligent creator actively managing the universe.
From a post of a counterpart I could see need for clarification so I posted this:
Buz Message13:
The point of my post #8 is that the complexity of science is what drives my logic that there's simply way too much complexity for NS to have been keeping on keeping on for hundreds of millions and billions of years to produce soooooo much complexity and design in a universe which in which 2ltd is suppose to be operating.
Now, why, oh why have we been wasting all these hours and bandwith, tangoing all the way off the
topic ballroom floor with peripherals? It takes more than one to tango, you know, and it wasn't buz who asked for this
dance.
Buz, didn't we have a whole thread on your behavior in discussions?
The thread was about who obfuscates in this town, and neither you, nor Percy nor Schrafinator, nor anyone else addressed the specifics of the op of that thread. Instead we did another multi-page
tango about an off the cuff statement I made, with my meanspirited accusers
INSISTING on keeping on keeping on with this, doing their dead level best to make a fool outa buz, the fundie creo. I repeatedly asked for specifics of them as to where I obfuscated any more than anyone else in town and noone produced noone. In the op, I made some pertinent statements about when we all quit threads, but no, they didn't want to talk about that. All they, like you wanted was to
MAKE THE CREO LOOK FOOLISH. So if you go back and read that thread I think you'll find that my behaviour has not been as bad as you people would like for the www to think it is. Some of the crap I get from some of my counterparts has been worse.
The 2nd law issue doesn't "bother me" all that much. However, if you again just duck out when you have been shown to be in error without being polite about it that would "bother me".
LOL!! You must think I'm some kind of jellyfish creo or something, Ned or maybe a doormat that you think you can wipe your dirty shoes on. Nor am I a duck that ducks out when you keep throwing out these generalized insinuations that I don't know how to debate in forums.
Why do you have such a hard time admitting to a reasonably small error? The inability to recognize error on your part will prevent you from learning.
I have a hard time keeping on topic when I continually am drawn off by you people, when you all began quizzing me on other stuff in your desperate attempt to make me state something erroneous. To make it simple, I asked you a very simple question, whether 2ltd was operative in the universe or not. Rather than answering briefly and forthrightly,
AS I REQUESTED YOU DO, you and your idiological friends
EVASIVELY OBFUSCATED the question and off we all went out in left field with all this off topic stuff.
The first one was addressing you in message 49 and the 2nd was in message 61, addressing Flying Hawk.
In this case, I don't see that your beliefs have anything to do with it. Why did you bring them up?
Had you cut and pasted message 8 and message 13
and stayed on topic by addressing them specifically AS STATED you should have understood why this
BIBLICAL CREATIONIST brought them up.
This is a topic about science supporting creationism. You used a scientific concept in bring up the 2nd law (among other things).
Can you spell c r e a t i o n i s m? I was debating as a creationist, and not as an evolutionist. Get it?
It may appear that I am moderating but we can all point out to others when they could improve. Why so sensitive?
Because I quite often get this from some of you people, especially you, Percy and Schrafinator and I, for the life of me, cannot see where I am such a notoriously bad poster here in town so as to have you people constantly reminding me of these generalized unspecified accusations, inuendos, insinuations claims you are making about my behavior. The problem with you people is not, so much my behavior as it is my
Biblical ideology which you people can't tolerate. That, imo, is your real bone of contention and when at times, you find it difficult to deal with my ideology, you resort to personal belittlement.
(I have addressed two of your messages in one to tie it all in perspectively.)
This message has been edited by buzsaw, 11-08-2004 12:09 AM
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