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gene90
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Message 6 of 8 (16347)
08-31-2002 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by nos482
08-31-2002 2:34 PM


[QUOTE][B]So, a majority of them are not theists.[/QUOTE]
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Who cares? The original point was that all scientists were atheists and clearly they are not. The large minority indicates that evolution and atheism are not the same and are not necessarily even related.
It looks to me like you're trying to make an argument-from-authority case in favor of atheism just because most scientists are (presumably) not theists. It doesn't matter to me what most American scientists are. After all, most Southern Baptist preachers are probably not evolutionists. But that will not influence my personal religious faith nor will it influence my academic or professional interests in science.

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gene90
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Message 8 of 8 (16351)
08-31-2002 7:13 PM
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08-31-2002 6:27 PM


[QUOTE][B]Schrafinator: A majority of scientists believe in God.[/QUOTE]
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Here the point is made against the original claim that scientists resort to evolution to escape God. I think this information that a large minority are theists refutes it. I would like to post a link but it was on Forbidden which is now http://www.humanrightsandtolerance.net which lacks most of the information the old site had.
[QUOTE][B]The VAST majority of people in the world belive in God[/QUOTE]
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Somewhat true statement if we would replace God (implying monotheism) with "higher powers" and I doubt the poster intends to argue in favor of theism but this does smack of herd mentality or argument from authority. Anyway the point is lost when we find that most people aren't Christians.
[QUOTE][B]Most religions have no problem with Biology or science.[/QUOTE]
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I don't like this either because most religions (judged by number of faiths regardless of their number of members) and most religious people (judged by population) are probably both in poorly developed, non-affluent nations that lack good education or even much exposure to science or biology. It is true though that most religious systems in developed nations with good science education (EU, Japan, etc.)
will reject YECism. But this again smacks of argument from authority, even though I think it has some weight.
[QUOTE][B]It's only a few American extreme fundamentalist Protestant Christian groups which have problems with it.[/QUOTE]
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That is incorrect. In another thread there is a brief discussion of an Islamic creationist from Turkey who will be speaking in DC soon. There is also a Vedhic YEC running around somewhere in the states and there is also a Mormon YEC (LDS is not Protestant) running around. From my personal experience I believe there are Catholic YECs here as well, at least the occasional one that has been immersed in evangelical, conservative Protestants too long.
[QUOTE][B]Actually he had made that sort of arguement.[/QUOTE]
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Sorry for pinning that on you.
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