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Author Topic:   Evolution will always be a theory existant
nos482
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Message 3 of 8 (16343)
08-31-2002 9:19 AM
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08-31-2002 2:05 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:
A majority of scientists believe in God.
A growing number of scientists are atheists.
The VAST majority of people in the world belive in God, as well.
Actually no, a vast majority of people in the world don't believe in God. Most believe in a god(s). Not everyone believes in the same god(s).
Most religions have no problem with Biology or science. It's only a few American extreme fundamentalist Protestant Christian groups which have problems with it.
Exactly. As I've stated before American science education is a joke.
Science says nothing at all about God. Science ignores all of the supernatural, because it is not designed to deal with it.
Yes, it only deals with that which actually exists.
Who told you that God requires you to turn your back on scientific knowledge?
At one time the Church had tried to use science to prove the existence of their god, but when they eventually found out that it could only show the opposite they worked to suppress science by any means necessary.

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nos482
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Message 5 of 8 (16345)
08-31-2002 2:34 PM
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08-31-2002 11:18 AM


Originally posted by schrafinator:
No, that's not true. The percentage of scientists who believe in god has held roughly the same for almost 100 years.
What is the source for your assertion?
I seem to remember seeing on a news report something about the number of scientists who didn't believe in god was going up.
I would like to correct myself, though, by stating that 40% of scientists believe in god, not a majority as previously stated.
So, a majority of them are not theists.
Um, this counts as believing in supernatural, supreme forces of some kind, which falls under tha definition of "god".
You had said God and it is mainly only Christians who refer to their deity as 'G'od.
So, what is your point?
My point is that because of their sorry state of science education that nonsense like creationism could ever be concidered to be a valid science. It is the same as saying that alchemy and astrology are real science as well.
Not quite correct. It deals with what we can sense with our five senses. Other things might exist ouside of this, but we have no way to tell. It is a philosophical distinction, but important.
Philosophy is not hard science and is only one step in the process. Too many seem to think that this is all they need to "prove" what they say is true.
Right. So I can't tell if you are arguing for science or against it.
For science. When the Church was at the height of its power was mainly during the Dark Ages.

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nos482
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Message 7 of 8 (16350)
08-31-2002 6:27 PM
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08-31-2002 5:17 PM


quote:
Originally posted by gene90:
[QUOTE][B]So, a majority of them are not theists.[/QUOTE]
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Who cares? The original point was that all scientists were atheists and clearly they are not. The large minority indicates that evolution and atheism are not the same and are not necessarily even related.
It looks to me like you're trying to make an argument-from-authority case in favor of atheism just because most scientists are (presumably) not theists. It doesn't matter to me what most American scientists are. After all, most Southern Baptist preachers are probably not evolutionists. But that will not influence my personal religious faith nor will it influence my academic or professional interests in science.

Actually he had made that sort of arguement. I had only said that an increasing number were becoming atheistic.

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