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JJboy Inactive Member |
Uh, ya. Where exactly did you, Nos, find that little bit of wishful thinking? (About Shakespere)
------------------Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish. ------------------------ I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice. -Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by gene90:
How does that "prove" that none of them are inspired by God? If they were truly inspired by god than there wouldn't be any errors and there would only be one version. "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly" And who desides if it is actully the "correct" translation? The moral of this story: don't shoehorn all of Christianity in with the fundamentalists. It's no better than when a YEC strawmans evolution. Either you accept your bible as the literal word of your god or you don't, unless you are one of those Cut&Paste Christians. The vast majority of Christians are not taught from the "original" texts and manuscripts. And I didn't say all. I had said humdreds of millions of Christians. So, your point is moot. BTW, most Christians in the world don't concider Mormons to be real Christians.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by Andya Primanda:
What a shock. The Bible is the word of... Shakespeare? That means Shakespeare is God? You truly must be incredibly thick headed. I had said that he had gotten WS to do much of the work, as in translating, on his version of the bible. BTW, in biblical times they didn't say Thous and Thes. Like I keep saying, I'm constantly amazed at the ignorace most Christians have on the actual history of they own belief system.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: A docuementary on A&E, one on the Discovery Channel. But what can I expect, you're only a teenager and don't know a great many things, only what you've been told by your clergy. You're no different than the majority of Christians when it comes to the actual history of Christianity. [This message has been edited by nos482, 09-04-2002]
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John Inactive Member |
quote: I do not think the Shakespeare hypothesis is accurate. I looked it up. It seems to be myth. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
Buddy, you're quoting the Discovery Channel without even looking for better information on the Internet. How is that much better than the average Christian?
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: I would think that the Discovery (Canadian version) Channel would be far more reliable a source than "Puff, god did it!"
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by John:
I do not think the Shakespeare hypothesis is accurate. I looked it up. It seems to be myth. [/B] From where did you look it up?
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John Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nos482:
Originally posted by John: I do not think the Shakespeare hypothesis is accurate. I looked it up. It seems to be myth. From where did you look it up?[/B][/QUOTE] Google I entered the first thing that came to mind (you should try it) -- King James Bible Shakespeare. The fourth link down hits gold. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Me Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by nos482:
[B] quote: A docuementary on A&E, one on the Discovery Channel. B][/QUOTE] I love this board! The sophistication of the research leaves me in awe! How does this square with the assertion that Bacon (or Marlowe) wrote Shakespeare's work? I suppose he was too busy with all the scholarly work involved in translating. The KJV is a spectacularly good document because this was a Golden Age for English Literature. Shakespeare, Jonson, Milton, Donne, Sidney, Wyatt...the list is endless. Readers in those days had a much higher expectation of quality than nowadays, and writers had to respond. Our literature (like our art) cannot compare to it. That is the reason reading the KJV is such an emotive experience - try reading any of the Metaphysical Poets and get the same effect.
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
Arrg, just when I thought I'd caught you, you mention it was the Canadian version.
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gene90 Member (Idle past 3851 days) Posts: 1610 Joined: |
[QUOTE][B]If they were truly inspired by god than there wouldn't be any errors and there would only be one version.[/QUOTE]
[/B] That would be true--immediately after it was written. But since it was written over the centuries parts of it would actually have time to degrade while other parts were being written. And since it was not dictated in English it is inevitable that there are multiple versions. Factor in opportunistic publishers and you get lots more versions, most of which probably aren't needed anyway.
[QUOTE][B]And who desides if it is actully the "correct" translation?[/QUOTE] [/B] On the personal level we have the spirit, on the church level we have the prophet and extra-Biblical sources.
[QUOTE][B]BTW, most Christians in the world don't concider Mormons to be real Christians.[/QUOTE] [/B] That doesn't bother me.
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Philip Member (Idle past 4751 days) Posts: 656 From: Albertville, AL, USA Joined: |
Remember I gave you my meager opinion only:
The KJV is not for everyone; especially in the historical books. I just happen to be madly in love with it in the prophetic and poetic books and NT books. (I believe you have Shakespear and King James confused by some jokester.) --Philip
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Joe Meert Member (Idle past 5708 days) Posts: 913 From: Gainesville Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JJboy:
[/B][/QUOTE] JM: I am sure someone told you this, but the god Einstein refers to is that of Spinoza. Einstein was a pantheist and was discussing quantum mechanics. Cheers Joe Meert
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nos482 Inactive Member |
Originally posted by gene90:
That would be true--immediately after it was written. But since it was written over the centuries parts of it would actually have time to degrade while other parts were being written. And since it was not dictated in English it is inevitable that there are multiple versions. Factor in opportunistic publishers and you get lots more versions, most of which probably aren't needed anyway. Language and time are irrelevant. On the personal level we have the spirit, on the church level we have the prophet and extra-Biblical sources. The first two are extermely biased and suspect and the last is limited and doesn't actually prove the existence of god only that the story tellers used current peoples and places in their stories. That doesn't bother me. It should if you end up being burned at the stake as a heretic.
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