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tsig
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Message 90 of 162 (183427)
02-06-2005 4:46 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by Parasomnium
02-03-2005 9:09 AM


Simple
Of course I can, it's simple. All I have to do is think of the time before I was born. My mind was just... not there. There was nothing for me before my birth. I had no life to live yet, I had no influence in the world, I didn't know what was happening in the world. I was just just... not there! Pretty much as you described. And you know what? I didn't care, just as I won't care after I die. So, for consistency's sake, I might as well not care now. I think I'll just have some fun in the mean time, if it's allright with you.
Yes it is very simple, we have life for a while then we don't. If you don't enjoy your life, who will?

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tsig
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Message 91 of 162 (183429)
02-06-2005 4:55 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Nighttrain
02-03-2005 7:18 PM


Hi, Rob, for something worthwhile, start your own religion. Easy entrance, plenty of side benefits, glorious afterlife. Just don`t forget to stress to bring plenty money.
Been there, done that, couldn't stand dealing with followers.

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Message 92 of 162 (183430)
02-06-2005 5:16 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by jar
02-04-2005 7:25 PM


Re: Gary
Well, many are cold but few are frozen.
And blessed are the frozen for they shall be called th children of the most high ice.
edited by AdminJar to fix quotes.
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tsig
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Message 93 of 162 (183432)
02-06-2005 5:25 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by robinrohan
02-05-2005 12:26 PM


Re: Does it count?
am very curious about this since I have never transcended anything and have never had a sudden change in my vision of myself or the world or anything else that I can think of though I have often wished to.
My first change of vision came from seeing a 10 kiloton nuclear weapon on a Minuteman ICBM. I saw that if man could end the world, there wasen't much left for god.
When we die we are dead, end of story.

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tsig
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Message 111 of 162 (183724)
02-07-2005 2:20 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by LDSdude
02-06-2005 11:13 PM


Quotes
LDS people like me believe that there is a life that everyone goes to after their death before they recieve judgement and are "sorted" into their respective kingdoms. We call them kingdoms. The life is called the spirit world and is beautiful in and of itself. Kind of like a 'rest stop'. At judgement day, people will be judged according to their works and deeds. Those who followed God's commandments and were baptized, and did all they could to spread the gospel here will go to the Celestial Kingdom, or 'heaven'. It is a wonderful place where you can live with your earthly family forever and become a God yourself and someday raise your own spiritual children in their own lives much like us here now. Those who had the chance of hearing the gospel, but flatly denied it, yet still remained decent people will go to the Terrestrial Kingdom. It is not as great and glorious as the Celestial, but it is still a wonderful paradise to live in. Those people of earth who killed wrongfully(or when it was not out of defense) will be sent to the Telestial Kingdom. It too is actually a paradise. Joseph Smith said of the Telestial Kingdom, that even though it is the lowest of the three Kingdoms of Glory, if a man could gaze on it for just a very small moment, and then return to this life, he would kill himself just to get there. Now, there are some very few people in the world who will go to a fourth Kingdom called Outer Darkness. They will only go there if they recieve full witness of the reality of God(visions and so forth..) and then deny it to themselves and others.
Can you support any of this by quotes from the Book of Mormon? None of the key doctrines of the LDS curch comes from it's most sacred work.

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tsig
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Message 117 of 162 (183732)
02-07-2005 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by Lizard Breath
02-07-2005 2:31 PM


Re: Religion a waste of time you say?
I like you line of thought.
Perhaps the children of religious parents should be confiscated by the state until the child can rationally decide whether or not they want to be placed into an abbusive household that teaches religion. There could be courtesy visits by the biological parents but only under the direct supervision of an objective social worker.
Maybe potential parents who profess a religion should be sterilized by the state to stem the flow of violence against objective newborns. These people might be forced to obtain a licience or permit by the state, allowing them to believe in a religion and if found a believer without a permit would levy heavy punishment.
an interesting line of thought, i too have been wondering if it should be illeagal to infect a child with dangerous memes, but anyone who proposes such things will probaly find the answer to the OP rather more quickly than they wanted.
(added y to the)
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tsig
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Message 125 of 162 (183756)
02-07-2005 3:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by LDSdude
02-02-2005 7:25 PM


death is universal
What happens after death for an Atheist.
We do see that everything that lives, dies. We see what happens to that life. Why should it be any different for humans?
Speaking of living after dieing is a contradiction in terms.

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tsig
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Message 127 of 162 (183760)
02-07-2005 3:56 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by kjsimons
02-07-2005 3:51 PM


Re: Tide goes in, tide goes out.
The problem with your responses are they are sophomoric and don't add to the discussion. It's like I say I like the color purple and you come back and say "How can you like purple if the universe has no purpose?". That's not a discussion that's a way to pick a fight and is very troll-like.
Then why respond?

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