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Topic: A listing of the contradictions and errors in the bible.
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nos482
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Originally posted by Andya Primanda:
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Originally posted by Wordswordsman:
WS: Only one thing guarantees a place in hell, and that is unbelief concerning the savior Jesus Christ. Other beliefs are merely indicators of a person's position with God concerning eternal destiny. Evolution theory belief in itself is not evil. It becomes evil when it is used to supplant the truth of the Word of God which defines who is condemned already for their unbelief. After all, the theory is but an explanation of how most scientists think life evolved from more primitive life forms. I know several Christians who I think are not condemned becaue of their belief in evolution, being 'theistic evolutionists' for lack of the probably proper term, each of them holding different views, as do most evolutionists among school teachers disagree on many points. But, those Christians have not compromised their biblical beliefs, holding onto evolution theory as a lesser belief they would doubtless discard if forced to choose between the two as absolute truth.
Talking 'bout salvation claims... Strangely, I happen to adhere to a view that someone can be sent to hell if he/she accepts any substitute for God. That includes Jesus. He's not God to us Muslims.
Praise be to Mohammed!  Hey, Wordswordsman wants to have a "My god is better than your god" pissing contest with you. You better get your nose plugs ready. [This message has been edited by nos482, 09-28-2002]
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nos482
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Message 93 of 158 (18772)
10-01-2002 10:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 92 by MartinM
10-01-2002 9:42 PM
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Originally posted by MartinM:
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Originally posted by Wordswordsman:
yes, the KJV is my choice of most trusted Bible
Why trust a book that claims the Earth to be flat?
Plus, there are the many contradictions and errors in it as well, but he can explain those away with apologetic interpretations(READ: Lies, distortions, and spectulation). It is irrelevant if it is different in the so-called "original" manuscipts and scrolls since most Christians can neither read hebrew or have free access to them, nor are bible scholars.
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nos482
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Originally posted by peter borger:
Dear martin, In the days the Bible was written mankind knew the earth was round. The Persians knew it, the Greeks knew it, and the writers of the bible knew it. (Some greek scholars even reasoned that the earth revolved around the sun). The only retarded who didn't know it were the mediaeval people in Western Europe who made a lot of false deductions. best wishes
peter
No one wrote the bible, it was put together from other sources and no they didn't know. No matter how high you go you can't see all of the Earth at once. These other cultures had been enlightened enough to see for themselves. That which was oppressed by Christianity wasn't. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-02-2002]
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nos482
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Hmmm, that smell has returned.
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nos482
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Message 102 of 158 (18847)
10-02-2002 11:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 100 by MartinM
10-02-2002 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by MartinM:
Isaiah 40:22 "It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth" Sounds flat to me.
The Earth is not a circle, it is a globe. A coin is a circle and it is flat.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 100 by MartinM, posted 10-02-2002 11:00 AM | | MartinM has replied |
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nos482
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What is that stench? Oh, I know now it is the foul odor of apologenics. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-03-2002]
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nos482
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Originally posted by Adminnemooseus:
Backslipping into your old ways here, nos?
Backslipping? He is getting all the response he deserves, I don't want to start banging my head against his wall of apologenics. BTW don't hold your breath for that apology from him. The only apology he'll ever give is for his beliefs as in apologenics. Also, I don't believe in compelled apologies or the like. They either have to be voluntary, as in realizing one's mistake on one's own, or they mean nothing. It is just saving one's ass, IMO. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-03-2002] Adminnemoose comment: I noticed the nos comment first, and posted my message. I then noticed WS's comment, and made an addition by edit. I must admit, that nos's comments in this message, have made me realize that his "offending" message may have been sadly appropriate. As for the "compelled" apology - I would prefer to think of it as a suggestion. I think, that if WS does not retract that offensive statement, and admit that he was wrong in making it, it is going to brand him as a bigot, and essentially destroy his credibility in the related discussion/debate. - Adminnemooseus He had no credibility with me soon after he began to speak. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-03-2002]
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nos482
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You are nuts, IMO.
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nos482
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Originally posted by Andya Primanda:
Thanks bro. Now I know what Christians are made of.
The same stuff we all are made of.
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nos482
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Originally posted by Andya Primanda: Sword, the reason I start to quote your so-called holy texts was because Peter Borger asked me to. [He slips away somehow, maybe locked in another flame throwing session vs SLPx]. I did, and I learned some valuable lessons from it. "your so-called holy texts"? They have the same source as yours as well. 1. If your attitude is the usual attitude of Christians, then I'd sooner be an atheist then follow your ways. All theists are the same in this attitude when they take their religion a little too seriously. Do you expect people to convert by name-calling and such? You'd only get flames. Even nos482 can't stand you. Poor devil, maybe someone should take him to the vet to be put out of his misery. (Disclaimer: In no way do I endorse that someone actually do this.) 2. [For myself] Never claim anything using Bible verses as reference. Not worth the trouble arguing and undefendable because the original texts are nonexistent. Only use empirical evidence for secular arguments and the Qur'an original text for religious arguments (if necessary). Both the bible and the Qu'ran should only be used as religious references, they have no other value in the real world. One thing you should realize, Andya, just because I mainly target Christianity doesn't mean that I condon Islam. I feel the same about all dominance-based religions. It is just that I live in a mainly Christian centred culture and they are the biggest threat to our freedoms and rights. Arguing with you has been a hard lesson to swallow, but I now understand what Christians really think. There goes my respect to you. Not all Christians are as bad as he is, thank god ( ), the same as not all Muslims would crash airplanes into buildings. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-04-2002]
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nos482
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Wow, you've really outdone yourself. You made that dog jump through a flaming hoop. I'm impressed at your level of self-delusion. Now, if you could only do something about that smell. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-04-2002]
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nos482
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Originally posted by w_fortenberry: Please also notice that, in keeping with rule four, any assertion regarding someone's character should be supported with explanations and/or evidence for its validity. Therefore, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from making negative comments similar to the one above. Thank You[/QUOTE] All you have to do is read what he has been posting and you'll see that I'm justified in my opinion of him. He does everything he can to make whatever you say fit into his beliefs. Not only does he jump through hoops he'll bring in the the entire circus to do it. But, hey, you're new here and after awhile you'll come to see this as well. That is unless you like banging your head against a dense wall. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-05-2002]
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nos482
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Originally posted by w_fortenberry:
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Originally posted by nos482:
All you have to do is read what he has been posting and you'll see that I'm justified in my opinion of him. He does everything he can to make whatever you say fit into his beliefs. Not only does he jump through hoops he'll bring in the the entire circus to do it. But, hey, you're new here and after awhile you'll come to see this as well. That is unless you like banging your head against a dense wall.
The justification of your opinion does not justify the posting of that opinion against forum rules.
Give it time and you will see. I guess that you'll just have to learn for yourself the hard way. As I've stated many times. We only have to respect one's right to express one's beliefs and opinions. Not the beliefs or opinions themselves. It wouldn't be much of a debate if everyone agreed on everything. That would be a creationists board where they only allow fellow creationists to say anything and ban all others at the drop of a hat. [This message has been edited by nos482, 10-05-2002]
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