Tired Light

Sorry, but I am not the one pretending to be a scientist with a published paper in a peer reviewed journal.Nor do I need to be to point out that this particular "journal" is of less than stellar quality by it's own admission.How would mentioning any real paper in any substantial journal change that fact? Especially in a different field altogether? The logic of this comment of your is false from the beginning of a gleam of a premise.LOL. Try again.

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Hi NosyNed,
I'm waiting to answer your questions, Which option do you fancy then? I will answer it (not for long though itlate and work in the morning).
Cheers.
Lyndon

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Lyndon Ashmore - bringing cosmology back down to Earth!

Hi Eta_Corinae,
If you don't explain what you mean by a "thrmalised spectrum" how can I answer it?
I don't believe this exists.
Cheers
lyndon

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Lyndon Ashmore - bringing cosmology back down to Earth!

Ah! so you haven't got one then.
say no more.
Cheers
Lyndon

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Lyndon Ashmore - bringing cosmology back down to Earth!

Gosh, lyndon, it was from your link ... Message 69
I just read the whole pdf article instead of just the abstract:
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/astro-ph/pdf/0105/0105073.pdfAn interesting article indeed.The biggest problem with your model from my viewpoint is that it relies on energy being sucked out of things and not going anywhere. You need a constant noticeable net loss of energy to make it work, and this is not matched to the real world experience of experimental evidence.Enjoy.

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Hi unpublished RAZD (apart from Births,deaths and marriages in the local rag)
This post doesnot make sense.

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energy being sucked out of things and not going anywhere. You need a constant noticeable net loss of energy to make it work, and this is not matched to the real world experience of experimental evidence.

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are you going to enlighten us with your words of wisdom?
Cheers Lyndon

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Lyndon Ashmore - bringing cosmology back down to Earth!

The CMB spectrum is pretty much a perfect black body(=thermalised).Your mechanism needs to produce such a spectrum which requires a source in thermal equilibrium to produce it hence the term thermalised.One of the weaknesses of Steady State was the fact that it argued the CMB was reprocessed starlight BUT you need a mechanism to take starlight and out of this produce a perfect blackbody 2.73K spectrum.This could only be done by them hypothesising whiskers of iron to do this despite not having a source for these iron whiskers.You similarly require a way of producing such a spectrum. NOT only that you need it to be local in origin.This means you need a sufficient amount of whatever material is effecting the photons to cause this.WHERE IS THIS MATERIAL? You don't have the density of anything to cause this, be it other material or your IG plasma. The amounts required to cause the thermal 2.73K spectrum are RULED OUT observationally.This message has been edited by Admin_Eta, 03-19-2005 02:20 PM

ah, so you admit that you are not a real scientist, and have to use such a slack journal to prop up your position with pseudoqualifications for your pseudoscience and to give you an aura to justify your condescending attitude of others critical of your "work"fascinating.tell me again: how would a paper on, say, the microbiological implications of waste milk products on the ecosystem of a rural stream have any -- any -- relevance to this discussion?LOL.

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Hi irrelevant, arrogant and erroneous Lyndon, the problem is not in my understanding.

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ANSWER WHY YOUR EQUIVALENCE IS NOT BULLSHIT SUE TO LENGTH UNIT CHOICE!!!This is much more important than arguing Hawkins paper.ARE YOU A CRANK???????It seems very likely.You obviously have not thought through the physics of your mechanism, the observational consequences of this, you don't understand relativity very well based upon a post much earlier in this thread either.BUT THIS IS ALL MOOT since your entire bullshit is PREDICATED upon the "ASHMORE PARADOX" which is a numerological piece of crap.*** PLEASE TELL ME HOW IN THE HELL YOU TAKE THE COINCIDENCE AS ANYTHING SERIOUS WHEN IT REQUIRES THE LENGTH UNIT TO BE A SPECIFIC i.e. THE METRE????????????????????This is STUPID!!!*** Reduce number of consecutive exclamation marks and asterisks to obtain normal page widths. --AdminThis message has been edited by Admin, 03-19-2005 02:25 PM

Tut Tut unpublished RAZD (apart from hatches, matches and dispatches that is ),
If I have offended you then I apologise profusely. Now how about getting back to some Physics and Tired Light?
Cheers
Lyndon
PS What is the name of your local rag?

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Lyndon Ashmore - bringing cosmology back down to Earth!

RAZD, Eta, remain calm. There is no need to let someone so silly get your goat. Simple state the issues and ask for rational replies back. The longer a question is avoided the more amusing it becomes.

The paper you cited, Time Dilation and Quasar Variability by M. R. S. Hawkins, has a different assessment of the supernova data: Moving on: The paper has a somewhat different assessment in the conclusion: If you want people to trust your arguments, then the references you cite should actually say what you claim they say.The paper also offers a possible explanation for the apparent absence of quasar time dilation: If my accounting is correct, then this is the list of issues that still remain for you to address:

• You claim that the intergalactic medium would affect photons like glass rather than like the gas that it is. This claim needs to be supported.
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• Time dilation of distance supernova light vs. time curves.
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• Blurring of spectral lines.
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• Black body radiation.

--Percy

Need the topic be closed, or bulk suspensions passed out?BTW, message 97 should have been from the non-admin mode. I know, the admin mode is Eta's default ID (it happens to me also), but he should go back and edit the ID to the non-admin mode (as I sometime have to do).Any responses to this message should go to the "General discussion of moderation procedures" topic, link below.Adminnemooseus

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agreed. a fool shows he is a fool by how he argues.

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