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Message 77 of 135 (190639)
03-08-2005 2:27 PM
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Re: You've Got Mail!
Yeah, That theologian told me that "Fundamentalism was created in the 1920's." Maybe that's why I was unaware of what some ppl feel it is.

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Message 80 of 135 (190645)
03-08-2005 2:58 PM
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Re: You've Got Mail!
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(frankly you don't fit most of them)
why not exactly? Who created fundamentalism in Islam? Fundamentalism has been around right? Just the dawn of christian fundamentalism was during that period.
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Message 82 of 135 (190675)
03-08-2005 5:42 PM
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Re: Fundamentailism vs fundamentalism
Well how would an Israelite question genesis, we have modern science, what did they use? Or did they just question the laws?
They believed it was God's words right?

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Message 87 of 135 (191181)
03-12-2005 1:04 PM
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03-09-2005 11:24 AM


Re: Fundamentailism vs fundamentalism
Why wouldn't God want to say what he did, why wouldn't he speak against what was said of him, him killing all those babies. I mean that didn;t happen right?

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Message 88 of 135 (191182)
03-12-2005 1:07 PM
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03-09-2005 12:33 PM


Re: Were the Pharisees fundamentalists?
Can you give me a few references?

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Message 90 of 135 (191235)
03-12-2005 10:50 PM
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Re: Fundamentailism vs fundamentalism
how do we know this? How do we know how the people felt? I mean it seems like the exact opposite is how ppl feel now.

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Message 92 of 135 (191296)
03-13-2005 3:15 PM
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03-12-2005 11:34 PM


Re: Fundamentailism vs fundamentalism
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Fortunately, the Bible isn't the only writing from the period. There are lots of other documents that can give us some insight into the era.
This is the stuff I'm looking for

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Message 109 of 135 (196148)
04-01-2005 11:10 PM
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03-13-2005 4:34 PM


Re: Maybe getting way off topic... but
There are reasons* to why I'm approaching your theory skeptically because there are many cultural evidences that are logical in regards to a literal belief, I will explain myself further and I'm interested in the buzz charlies been talking about.
*typo
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Message 110 of 135 (196263)
04-02-2005 5:54 PM
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Re: Maybe getting way off topic... but
quote:
'I and the Father are one." Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.
this passage troubles me because a people that would take their God that seriously, why would they question the scripture that* is their tradition, their culture, their family tree and their livelyhood? The means by which a common Israelite would question their forefathers and their God has yet to be seen either.
I mean if they were seeing men heal the sick and restore the blind's sight then why would they have doubts about their God destroying a town?
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Message 113 of 135 (196282)
04-02-2005 7:55 PM
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04-02-2005 7:05 PM


Re: Back to John again I see.
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You have to remember that there is nothing even similar to that passage outside John. In fact, much of John seems designed to place the Jews in as bad a light as possible.
what about matthew 27:24-25
Did Abraham Isaac and Jacob exist?
"You are in error because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God"matt21:29

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Message 114 of 135 (196283)
04-02-2005 7:58 PM
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04-02-2005 7:53 PM


Re: Maybe getting way off topic... but
Well throughout the new testament it says Jesus performs miracles.

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Message 115 of 135 (196296)
04-02-2005 8:29 PM


Message from MessenJAH of ONE
When it comes down to it you either are comfortable in believing that your religion has no history that the prophets could have been uneducated saying filler statements that Jesus would scare people equipped with the only history they knew ready to speak about 2nd comings and morals and ethics and this God that was written about in this scriptures as the God of ABRAHAM MOSES DAVID SOLOMON ISAIAH EZEKIEL and some people could be comfortable in accepting that none of these people never existed.
That God never helped this guy named Moses out and did some bad things to the Egyptians for no good reason.
That God's people never had a rich history and that they made up these fantastical stories to give pride to their culture.
That there is a creator A GOD, people don't realize the emphasis of this statement A GOD, they think they see it you can’t see it, how can you explain something that made your little miniscule self with limited mobility of the mind.
This creator likes you, he sees himself in you, he loves your imperfections and gives you ways of being perfect so you can see him!
The only reason to why I’m holding this conversation is because I’m perplexed at a Christian that thinks a God would be okay with telling fibs and putting fantastical stories in the minds of men that potentially show an imperfect human, not a God and he would be okay, to come back as a human and use these human, THESE HUMAN STORIES, these accounts that could villianize him, make him look horrible, make him be human(look at Job) God would be okay to come back and use these phony stories to teach his beloved people?
CAN YOU BELIEVE A GOD WOULD RESPECT A STORY MADE BY MAN ABOUT HIS QUALITIES? HE WOULD INSTRUCT PEOPLE TO READ IT. HE WOULD BE TEMPTED BY THIS ENTITY THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE A PART OF HIMSELF BUT COULDNT BECAUSE THIS NASTY THING IS WORLDLY AND OFFERS NOTHING BUT MEN AND THEIR SWEAT, MAN'S GLORY? CHRIST USED SCRIPTURE TO COMBAT SATAN, WHY WOULD HE? WHAT IS MANS GLORY TO A GOD? WHAT IS MANS WRITING TO GOD IF IT IS FLAWED IF IT IS NOT BEAUTIFUL IF IT IS NOT TRUE.
I CAN’T SEE A GOD THAT RESPECTS WIVES TALES, CREATED IN THE PRETENSE TO SCARE PEOPLE, IS THAT NOT TRUE?
WHY WOULD A WRITER WRITE A STORY OF GODS WRATH THATS NOT TRUE?
Think about it !The only reason could be to scare the people. That’s a human tactic, this stupid tactic that’s an imperfect tactic that writing doesn’t belong in the kingdom of God.
It is not real? It is simply a fictitious story, what is the point?
edit:I added a few punctuation marks, thanks phat for fixing it up
This life is so real and a God that is so real is accompanied with this life
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im going to find it soon

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Message 118 of 135 (196403)
04-03-2005 11:29 AM
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Re: Back to John again I see.
k

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Message 119 of 135 (196404)
04-03-2005 11:31 AM
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Re: Message from MessenJAH of ONE
Yeagh but the God of Jesus is the God of Abraham, the God of Jesus is the God of the scripture of the OT.

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Message 120 of 135 (196406)
04-03-2005 11:41 AM
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04-03-2005 10:32 AM


Re: Back to John again I see.
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What possible relationship does that have?
An anti-semitic painting of the ppl, just like in John when they try to stone Christ
quote:
As individuals? Don't know. It's possible they existed as individuals but more likely as composites.
Why would Jesus follow the God of nothing. Of a fake history?
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im going to find it soon

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