Faith and other YEC: why even bother taking part in the discussion?

You have GOT to stop making profound statements like you speak for all christians. It's the Word of God not the word of faith.

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It's also a mistake to think Creationism is seeking to use science to support itself. This is a common idea but it is false. Creationism CHALLENGES the evolutionistic old-earth premises of today's science, not to support itself but to further truth, knowing that God's word IS truth and anything that contradicts it is false.

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Now this may be true of creationism but Creation science which is what AiG and ICR perform IS trying to use science to support themselves (well pseduo-science).AIG

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Mega site on scientific evidence in support of the Genesis creation

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Billions of years of time, one of the bedrocks of evolutionary thinking, is once again being called into question. This time it will be challenged by a team of scientists.

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and if they don't "do" science why bother to have lists like this: Bios | Answers in Genesis Or is this just another example where you use "science" to mean flying sponge cake or something entirely different from the rest of us.Don't bother arguing the toss I just didn't want your falsehoods to stand unchallenged to the lurkers.

tut - how could an old hand like Brian go so wrong..just preface it with it is my belief and then you are bullet-proof.

(Brian is incorrect that he is correct as I am correct.)It is my belief* that many of the christians we have on here are suffering from Cognitive dissonance disorder and that is why they struggle with science. I will not explain further as quite clearly I am right and any questions would only proceed from your wrongheaded assumptions and misunderstandings.I think it's entirely right and proper that if some members want to be able to start a debate with their starting position as the final answer that it should stand for all of us. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.* I use my own meaning for words as is the new convention for the board - Belief= I am right.This message has been edited by CK, 15-Sep-2005 06:42 AM

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Are you annoyed with YECs for behaving this way, or with the Mods for not coming down harder?

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I'm not quite sure what is it - but I cannot help but notice that even the more calm and reasonable posters seem to be "acting up" more and more. Forums tend to go in cycles and we seem to be coming to one of those periods where we discuss endlessly why we are here and who should be here.Faith is a problem or rather the reactions of other posters (me included) to her, any thread she appears on seems to turn into a black hole of nonsense and sniping. That's actually not her fault but the people replying to her (and I'm one of them). I do not really see how we overcome that at this stage.The moderators have done her no favours by granting her special favourites (which she has NEVER asked for) - yes I know the rationale is so her (and those like her) viewpoint can be heard but all the other posters see is "special treatment", the rational responses seem to go out of the window at that point.How many threads do we current have running that are about Faith as opposed to any issue of substance? (and yes I know I've just added to the list )This message has been edited by CK, 15-Sep-2005 08:28 AM