Did Judas die twice?

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Originally posted by judge:
In Matthew 27:5 we read..
"So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself."

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In Acts 1:18-19 however we read..
"(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)"

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IIn 1 corinthians 15:3-5 we are told...
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve."

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This appearance "to the twelve" happens after Matthew 27:5.

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How is this so?

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Did Judas die twice?

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I do not believe so. I believe the verse in matthew does not speak of Judas's death but rather that he was "choked with grief". It would be similar to someone today "hanging their head in shame".

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This figurative usage of the greek word "apancho" (apanchomai) can be verified in the the writings of Aristophanes, vespae 686

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Hi Judge,If you had continued reading Acts chapter one you would have found at verses 23-25 that Judas was replaced by Matthias, which meant that there were 12 disciples again.Brian.------------------
Remembering events that never happened is a dangerous thing!

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Originally posted by judge:

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Originally posted by Brian Johnston:

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Originally posted by judge:
In Matthew 27:5 we read..
"So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself."

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In Acts 1:18-19 however we read..
"(With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Everyone in Jerusalem heard about this, so they called that field in their language Akeldama, that is, Field of Blood.)"

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IIn 1 corinthians 15:3-5 we are told...
3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance : that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve."

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This appearance "to the twelve" happens after Matthew 27:5.

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How is this so?

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Did Judas die twice?

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I do not believe so. I believe the verse in matthew does not speak of Judas's death but rather that he was "choked with grief". It would be similar to someone today "hanging their head in shame".

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This figurative usage of the greek word "apancho" (apanchomai) can be verified in the the writings of Aristophanes, vespae 686

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Hi Judge,

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If you had continued reading Acts chapter one you would have found at verses 23-25 that Judas was replaced by Matthias, which meant that there were 12 disciples again.

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Brian.

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Thanks for the reply..BUT...Jesus appears to the twelve after judas "hanged himself", but brfore matthias joins the twelve.

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Any more thoughts?

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Hi Judge,Sorry that I lost track of this post.I haven’t really thought much about this, and I now agree, on closer inspection, that Judas was alive to see the resurrected Jesus. Anyway here are a couple of ideas.Maybe Matthias was one of the twelve when Corinthians was written, and Paul wasn’t talking about the original twelve, or possibly the reference in Matthew isn’t really a close sequence of events. Maybe it condensed the final deeds of Judas, which actually spanned several days. The reference in Matthew doesn’t actually say when Judas killed himself, just that he did. He must have died before the ascension though as Peter refers to Judas’ death in Acts 1:15-19, so maybe it is a question of when Judas died and not how many times he did?Best wishesBrian.