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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I agree. The spectre of "you are going to be rightly punished for wnating and having sex!" rears it's ugly, Puritain head.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Yes, love and physical pleasure between consenting adults is a horrible, destructive, evil thing. Yep, that ugly Puritain moralizing runs deep!
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: "Just Say No", Gene? Give me a break. Life is more complicated for most of the rest of the world. A great many people, mostly in the Third World, contract HIV because they are ignorant of how to avoid it. Many more are infected by people who didn't know they had it, or by people who had it and they didn't tell their partner. Tell an African woman whose main value as a wife is to produce children to refuse sex with her husband and see how far it gets you. You go ahead and tell her to keep her pants on, Gene. You have of late let a very definite superior tone come through in your posts. I object to your constant moralizing. It is arrogant and irritating. For someone who claims to be a Christian I find you seem to be quite lacking in compassion. You come across as a hard, unbending person. [This message has been edited by schrafinator, 12-10-2002]
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by gene90:
[B] quote: quote: Unrealistic and naieve.
quote: quote: But what if he didn't? Your answer is for her to refuse to have sex with him, isn't it?
quote: quote: So are you saying that your superior tone was reserved for me now that I disagree with you? That doesn't make sense. Or, are you saying that I never noticed it before now because we have often been on the smae side of an issue? That makes more sense, but I don't think this is the case. I really think that you are becoming more self-righteous and condescending and that your debate quality is slipping. Poor debate practices that you nail other people on, you are guilty of yourself.
quote: So have yours, Gene.
quote: No, refusing to argue and debate the logical and skillful way you used to and your willingness to use poor debate tactics are a mark of becoming...I don't know what.
quote: No, it is the fact that you are using sloppy debate tactics more and more, and illogical arguments, and are becoming pretty snotty in some of your posts that is the problem. I will own up to some pretty tenatious, blunt statements, and I have also been known to get pissed off every now and then.
quote: I strongly disagree.
quote: I haven't really noticed this, but you seem to spend almost all of your time in the Faith and Belief forum, so you might know better than me. I still think you are feeling kind of put upon, but I don't think anyone here has been unfair to you.
quote: Please show me where I have treated you disrespectfully, Gene.
quote: quote: Yep. You are also entitled to whine about how nobody likes you any more, yet ignore the reason when it is shown to you.
quote: quote: Gee, is it difficult to know what the truth is all the time? It must be a terrible responsibility and SUCH a burden! (see this is the arrogant thing I was talking about)
quote: If you are EDUCATED, you are a lot better off.
quote: You certainly come across as uncaring and seem to be saying that people with AIDS get what they deserve. That is heartless and distateful, to say the least.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
I don't see anything wrong with polygamy.
It is polyGYNY, which is what is actually practiced most of the time, and often involving (the coersion of) very young girls, that I object to. What consenting ADULTS do with their living situations and lifestyles is up to them.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: I thought you liked guns, Funky?
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Sure. They are all those things. But Moose probably isn't any more a real threat to the US government institutions than my cat is, and you know it, yet you have gone on and on and ON with this "treason" bullcrap. He was blowing off steam in a way that obviously deeply offended you, and you want to make him shut up. That's all this really boils down to. I think you are someone who likes to dish it out but can't take it. Or, more accurately, you are someone who wants to be able to say what you want to but doesn't want to grant anyone else the same privilage. [This message has been edited by schrafinator, 05-04-2003]
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Crowds? A small crowd, maybe, and some, if not most or all of those were most likely trucked in by US forces. That was a completely staged media event. You can check out the wide shot, in which you see a small group of Iraqis surrounded by a large group of media people and vehicles, and a LOT of empty space in the square. There is also a couple of photos to compare of a POW who was transported to the scene to be an "extra", apparently. http://globalresearch.ca/articles/NYI304A.html So, it seems that you are saying that we are the world's policeman and have the moral justification to topple "evil" governments all on our own as we see fit. Hey, if we get a few billion barrels of high-quality oil for our cronies, um, I mean, US corporations in the bargain, it's just a coincidence.
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nator Member (Idle past 2198 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
quote: Because I thought I understood that he was blowing off steam, and because emotions were running high at the time and I felt like giving him some latitude. I am well aware that I have a pretty strong self-righteous, judgemental streak inside me, but it seems to be absolutely NOTHING compared to the one you have inside you. There are plenty of offensive things you have said on this forum, Gene, that you have not owned up to or taken responsibiliy for, so I wouldn't be so eager to point fingers if I were in your shoes. BTW, this will be my last post to you. I used to have a lot of fun in our debates, but these days I just feel seething vitriol coming from you rather than interested discussion. It's too bad. Have a nice life, and I hope you come to realize that the world is not a black and white place and that you, and the US, are not isolated from the rest of the world.
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