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Author Topic:   Large round boulders on hilltops
Christian
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Message 1 of 57 (252268)
10-16-2005 8:19 PM


In the area where we live there are lots of hills. Most of them are covered with huge, round boulders. Every time I see them I think they had to be tumbled about in a massive amount of water. This seems to me like evidence for a HUGE flood. I, however, don't know a whole lot about geology, so I was wondering if anyone had any other explanation.

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Christian
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Message 13 of 57 (252380)
10-17-2005 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by jar
10-16-2005 10:20 PM


How did those boulders get into the soil?

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Christian
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Message 14 of 57 (252381)
10-17-2005 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Coragyps
10-16-2005 10:10 PM


They've eroded a bit since, first by cracking, and then by water smoothing the edges of the cracks until we arrived at today's look.
Where did the water come from that smoothed the cracks?

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Christian
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Message 15 of 57 (252382)
10-17-2005 11:49 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by roxrkool
10-16-2005 11:21 PM


I thought about it last night after I posted that question, that everyone would then be wondering where I live. I think, if you don't mind, I'd like to keep myself as anonymous as possible. Pick any area with large boulders on mountains and we can discuss that. It doesn't have to be my area.

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Christian
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Message 18 of 57 (252437)
10-17-2005 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by coffee_addict
10-16-2005 11:11 PM


Have you ever threw a stone into water and try to make it float?
Actually it looks like the hills are piles of these boulders. I don't think the water lifted the boulders to the tops of hills, although perhaps strong currants could do that, it seems more likely that the movement of the water piled them up to form the hills. This is all purely speculation on my part.

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Christian
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Message 19 of 57 (252439)
10-17-2005 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by coffee_addict
10-17-2005 4:12 PM


He believed that a flood brought those rocks up that high.
I happen to be a she.

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Christian
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Message 34 of 57 (252569)
10-18-2005 1:14 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by DBlevins
10-17-2005 10:53 PM


Re: Chemical weathering
somehow that's hard to imagine. I don't think I'm qualified for this discussion but it seems that rainwater would cause one-sided erosion, not round boulders.

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Christian
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Message 35 of 57 (252570)
10-18-2005 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by jar
10-17-2005 11:55 AM


Lots of ways. Mostly through normal erosion events. Big rock break down into little rocks and little rocks to smaller rocks and those into sand.
I can see parts of the bigger rocks breaking off in normal processes, but I'm having a hard time imagining how they could become smooth and round without being tumbled, somehow.
The other half happens less regularly. It's the uplift portion. I was out there during the 1971 Earthquake and while it was abrupt, it was also awe inspiring.
Did you wittness something geological during that earthquake?

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Christian
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Message 37 of 57 (252578)
10-18-2005 1:42 AM
Reply to: Message 21 by coffee_addict
10-17-2005 5:06 PM


You didn't answer my question. Have you tried to make a rock float in water?
Well, I've thrown rocks into the water before, but never tried to make them float because I'm pretty sure that they don't.
Look at my avatar...
It looks like a white piece of paper with some sort of writing on it that I can't read because it's too small and apparently in another language.
Do you agree with what I said so far?
take a look at this:http://www.wwltv.com/.../slideshow/083005_dmnkatrina/15.html
Remember that Katrina was an increadibly small flood compared to what I am proposing.

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Christian
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Message 38 of 57 (252579)
10-18-2005 1:44 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by Coragyps
10-17-2005 5:30 PM


Yes, quite a bit like that. Where was that taken?

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Christian
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Message 39 of 57 (252581)
10-18-2005 1:51 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by coffee_addict
10-17-2005 9:16 PM


Most of the boulders range in size from house size to desk size, approximately. The piles aren't that huge. My three-year-old was able to climb one in about an hour. Some of the hills seem more like piles of large rocks while others seem more like piles of dirt with big rocks all over them.

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Christian
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Message 40 of 57 (252582)
10-18-2005 1:54 AM
Reply to: Message 28 by coffee_addict
10-17-2005 10:11 PM


How is it that Jacen can edit Lam's post?
Also, I don't think the hills in my area are the only evidence for the flood.

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Christian
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Message 51 of 57 (292956)
03-07-2006 12:09 PM


As I've looked at those rocks a bit more closely, I realize that they are not smooth rocks that have been tumbled in water. They are composed of many smaller rocks, and they do appear to break apart in kind of a circular pattern.
But it is documented that this whole area was once a huge lake, so I wasn't too far off, suggesting that water was involved.

  
Christian
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Message 52 of 57 (292959)
03-07-2006 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by jar
10-21-2005 10:36 AM


Re: Conclusion
Thanks for your support Jar, I may become an evolutionist yet! Question is: are any of you folks willing to admit that you might be wrong? Nah, you've already researched everything and know you're right. Us YEC's are the only one's who could possibly be ignorant.

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Christian
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Message 56 of 57 (293392)
03-08-2006 4:58 PM


Just a short general reply to say that I'm glad you guys are willing to be proven wrong. I personally know that I am ignorant so I will reserve further comment until I've done more studying.

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