Evolutionists and Creationists: Do you have controversial friends?

quote:

---

For Evolutionists: Do you have any close friends who are Creationists

---

Used to, sort of. She is a Mormon.

quote:

---

and if so, does the issue ever arise in discussion between you?

---

It did, once.

quote:

---

Do the differences in beliefs affect or challenge your friendships, if at all?

---

We aren't close anymore, but, interestingly, it had nothing to do with Creationism.It had to do with my irritation with her putting pressure on me to buy some direct marketing/almost-a-pyramid-scheme/they-were-using-the-fear-of-cancer-to-sell it crap from her so she could get money for a honeymoon.Well, actually, it had to do with a lot more than that, but it was one of the last straws. I realized that she had left all reason behind and she had become a religious nut; a True Believer, and that there was no reaching her on the planet she had decided to live on.

quote:

---

and whose wife just got another breast enhancement.

---

"Enhancement" just means "a lot bigger", right?

quote:

---

yes well. everytime i ignore crazy people, they tend to decide that i'm not worth anything. yes well. everytime i ignore crazy people, they tend to decide that i'm not worth anything.

---

That reminds me of a story my brother told me years ago during a discussion he and I were having about our crazy mother.There are four children in the family. He said that he tried to stay off of my mother's "list".Our oldest sister was on "the list" for choosing to go to art school, but is now off "the list" because she was highly successful as a commercial graphic designer, got married, started her own business, made lots of money, etc.The next younger sister was off "the list" because she did everything my mother told her to do, including what to study in college. She then went seriously on "the list" for marrying an asshole who is a social idiot (he's very shy and very afraid of people but it manifests in being rude and abrasive).My brother was off "the list" for a long time because he was the male child, was smart, and went to school for Chemistry to my father's alma mater, instead of studying music like he wanted to. He then went on "the list" for quitting his job as a Chemist and becoming a sports book dealer and writer/poet. He married a nice but standoffish woman which read as neutral to my mother, so it did not affect his list status much, but buying a house and getting back into Chemistry as an instructor at WVU got him back off "the list".After he told me this whole litany, I just stared at him. Then I said:"I didn't know it was even possible to get off the list"This message has been edited by schrafinator, 11-13-2005 10:28 PM

quote:

---

lucky for me my mother is happy no matter what i want to do... as long as it doesn't include drinking, drugs, tattoos, piercings, or premarital sex.

---

She's just worried about you, you know. She's scared. You can't blame her; that's her job as a mother.I wish my mother cared more about that stuff (like, if I'm fulfilled and happy and healthy) and spent less time trying to tell me how to live the mundane aspects of my life.EVERY other aspect of my life.(I should add that she stopped doing that once I stopped being defensive every time she attacked me and criticized me, and instead said things like "I'm sorry you feel that way", and "Oh". That freaked her right the hell out, but since she wasn't able to control me or get me to fight back, it really wasn't the payoff for her that it used to be.)

No, no, I have the craziest mother.And she doesn't have the excuse of being an alcoholic or a drug addict (except for ciggarettes) or uneducated or living in poverty or being schizophrenic.I have some stories about my childhood that would make your hair stand on end, curl, and then fall right out.Mine was a pretty bad mother.

quote:

---

No I have the craziest mother, and I can prove it:
after raising us she went back to school to get a Ph.D. in Child Psychology.

---

I have the crazist mother.Because I wasn't working in the field that I studied in college, she told me that I had "wasted" the money she and my father had spent on my education. I was 25 at the time.