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JustinC
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Message 10 of 39 (260193)
11-16-2005 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by bobbins
11-15-2005 9:02 PM


"Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."
-Richard Feynman
I think questioning experts is a great thing for anybody to do. Without it, science would make no progress.
An expert shouldn't be trusted because he or she is an expert. They should be trusted based on the soundness of their arguments.

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JustinC
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Message 19 of 39 (260421)
11-16-2005 11:15 PM
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11-16-2005 9:51 AM


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But if one is skeptical of an expert's conclusions, shouldn't one reserve judgements upon the validity of the arguments if one doesn't have the expertise to evaluate the arguments?
Without a doubt. If one can't understand an argument they should not make any judgements about its soundness.
I'm just saying that a distrust for experts isn't necessarily a bad thing, though one doesn't have the right to dismiss arguments because of their distrust.

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JustinC
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Message 22 of 39 (260482)
11-17-2005 4:17 AM
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11-17-2005 2:12 AM


Re: A way to make a judgement
I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying. When I read about quantum physics I realize I don't have the education to really understand what the experts are saying to the degree that the experts do. In those cases, I form my opinion about which school of thought is correct in a particular disagreement, and if I was placing bets I'd probably go with the view that the majority of experts hold.
But, if one doesn't understand the arguments I don't think they have a right to defend one position over another based on how many experts favor this or that position. That seems too close, if not exactly, to the infamous "argument from authority" which I think should never be introduced in a debate.

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JustinC
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Message 26 of 39 (260775)
11-17-2005 11:45 PM
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11-17-2005 7:04 AM


Re: Incompetence is not really an issue
Is this really true?

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