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Omnivorous
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Message 11 of 73 (263748)
11-28-2005 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by purpledawn
11-28-2005 10:59 AM


Re: Males Build
The bower bird (bowerbird?) does remarkable building.
The male builds a "bachelor pad" and decorates it and the surrounding area with brightly colored objects (blue is favored). He buzzes and dances about to attract a female, and if she approves of his bower, she will enter it, and he will get lucky. Then she flies off, builds a nest, and raises the young on her own.
The younger males almost never get lucky. Older males may mate with a dozen or more females each season. Younger males will steal another's decorations or demolish their bower, though the older males rarely do. The males are both exacting and idiosyncatic in their bower building, quickly spotting any observer-added material and removing (or relocating) it to their satisfaction. Some of the bowers are quite striking, and no two are exactly alike.
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Message 16 of 73 (264570)
11-30-2005 8:26 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Larni
11-30-2005 10:12 AM


Re: Behaviour evolution
Just wanted to say thanks, Larni.
Some of this material I knew, some I didn't (always appreciated); there are unfamiliar examples here of familiar phenomena, and those are always delectable.
Also, I try to read across many fields, and it is always helpful to look closely at some basics that don't show up in more advanced or technical material.
i.e.: cool

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Message 29 of 73 (266162)
12-06-2005 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Carico
12-06-2005 6:19 PM


Carico writes:
The theory of evolution is an embarrassment to science. It is simply impossible for one species to produce offspring of a different species with whom it cannot breed. This is an elementary principle of biology that evolutionists either do not understand or blatantly lie about. So it's a waste of time comparing apes to humans. One's time would be better served in acknowledging one's own sins and honoring the Ten Commandments.
Hi, Carico. Welcome to EvC.
You should learn a little more about evolution; then you wouldn't embarrass your side with misunderstandings and needless hostility--you can disagree without maligning those with whom you disagree. There may be something in the 10 Commandments about that... The particular logical fallacy you commit by way of doing so is called a false dilemma: evolutionsts must be either idiots or liars; they may, in fact, be many other things, including sincerely mistaken or brilliantly right.
You may be startled to learn that evolution does not claim that one species gives birth to another; in fact, evolutionists pretty much universally insist quite the opposite.
If everybody did that, there would be no wars, std's, or hatred in the world.
If there is no such thing as evolution, then God created sexually transmitted diseases directly. Who do you suppose He gave syphillis to first, and why? Did the first rape victim who contracted syphillis deserve it?
Oh, one other thing: what about the wars that God started in the Old Testament?

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Message 36 of 73 (266366)
12-07-2005 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Carico
12-06-2005 6:19 PM


Answers, please
Carico, I'm still waiting for answers to the specific questions I asked you in this thread.
I see you have repeated your beliefs in other messages since stating them in this one, but you have not responded to any replies.
Discussion is a two-way street.

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