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Message 7 of 50 (266631)
12-07-2005 11:15 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by stud
12-07-2005 9:36 PM


Cain married somebody he picked up in the next town. (Or maybe it was from the land of Nod )

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Message 10 of 50 (266692)
12-08-2005 1:55 AM
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12-08-2005 1:38 AM


Re: theories on this
3. The Bible gives a hint at a deeper reality and structure within the universe, and that something had occurred resulting in a nearby land, called Nod, with people in it. Perhaps after the Fall, there was a change in the universe (multi-verse) that enabled people to emerge, sort of a blending of the time-line.
Before I posted Message 7, I googled for "Land of Nod". Some of the references suggested that there might be a bit of a mistranslation here. It could actually be "land of wanderers" or "land of nomads". That's why I put my "Nod" comment in parentheses.
My own view is that Genesis is not a history. It was probably written based on an oral tradition from the early Jewish people. And oral traditions tend to be unreliable as histories.
My advice is to take Genesis as providing a spiritual message, but don't take it as a record of actual events.
I recognize that literalists will disagree with me. But there is too much in Genesis that cannot be literally correct. The creation story is incorrect. The flood story is incorrect. The meaning of "heaven" in Genesis 1 is not consistent with current Christian views. The Tower of Babel story is obviously wrong.

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Message 14 of 50 (266727)
12-08-2005 7:19 AM
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12-08-2005 3:52 AM


Re: bab-el
i think it's highly likely that story is referring to a very real place; just satirizing it.
You are treating it as a story about a building.
I think of it as a story about how their came to be multiple languages. I see it as about as likely as "How the elephant got its trunk."

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Message 25 of 50 (266957)
12-08-2005 6:54 PM
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12-08-2005 5:28 PM


Re: bab-el
i just think it's a little presumptuous to write it off as merely fiction.
I didn't actually say that it is fiction. Rather, I see it as a kind of pre-scientific explanation for why there are multiple languages.
I accept your point that the building aspect could be based on actual events.

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Message 35 of 50 (267350)
12-09-2005 9:04 PM
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12-07-2005 9:36 PM


someone from that other creation story
Cain, son of the man and woman created in Genesis 2, simply married a daughter of the man and woman who were created in Genesis 1.

What shall it profit a nation if it gain the whole world, yet lose its own soul.
(paraphrasing Mark 8:36)

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