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John
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Message 5 of 90 (28677)
01-08-2003 9:42 AM
Reply to: Message 2 by DaveF
01-08-2003 6:32 AM


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Originally posted by DaveF:
Nazism was based heavily on Nietzschean philosophy, which was the source of the 'will to power', ubermensch and the idea that morality should be viewed as a flaw allowing the 'unfit' to survive.
Ever read Nietzche? I doubt it. Most people don't bother. What the Nazi Party did with Uncle Freddie's work is mostly antithetical to what he actually wrote.
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John
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Message 14 of 90 (29129)
01-14-2003 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by nator
01-14-2003 8:58 AM


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Originally posted by schrafinator:
Um, NS is an EXPLANATION of a MECHANISM of evolution. They are pretty much linked together, by definition.
Syamsu,
I am guessing that this is what you requested I 'clear up'. Problem is that they are linked together in just the way Schraf says. NS is a mechanism of evolution. I don't think I have said anything different. Our debate in the other thread is about NS in the absense of variation. Technically, if there is no variation there would be no evolution and so in that sense NS does not require the rest of the ToE, but what Schraf said is the other way around. The ToE does require NS.
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John
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Message 17 of 90 (29178)
01-15-2003 9:11 AM
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01-15-2003 1:40 AM


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Originally posted by Syamsu:
I doubt that is what Schrafinator intended to say. Natural Selection and evolution are not linked by definition (except for definitions of Natural Selection that are, as I argue, wrong) they are linked by the incidence of variation or actually mutation.
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu

That is exactly what Schraf did say. It may be that she meant something else, but she can comment if she wishes.
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