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Topic: Freewill and hardened hearts
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 10 of 45 (28136)
12-30-2002 5:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by Mr. Davies 12-27-2002 9:21 AM
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Why worship him if we do understand his ways? He would hardly be worthy of praise if his ways weren't abover ours. ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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I didn't say God doesn't make sense, only that his ways are above our ways. If his ways were not above our ways then he would not be worthy of praise. ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
This message is a reply to: | | Message 13 by Mr. Davies, posted 12-31-2002 8:08 AM | | Mr. Davies has replied |
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 18 of 45 (28357)
01-03-2003 1:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 16 by John 01-03-2003 9:47 AM
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quote: Originally posted by John:
quote: Originally posted by funkmasterfreaky: I didn't say God doesn't make sense, only that his ways are above our ways. If his ways were not above our ways then he would not be worthy of praise.
So you assume that God's ways are rational even though they don't make sense to us. But you formulated this idea as a REASON to worship Him. So, from a human perspective ( What other have we, right? ) we see actions that DO NOT make sense and conclude that these actions are 'above' ours and so the Actor is worthy of worship. How do we know that the actions that don't make sense to us are actually 'above' ours rather than being actions which simply don't make sense? How do we determine which nonsensical actions are 'above' ours and which are the actions of a madman, for example. It seems that we can't. And you are left with the proposition that we should worship what does not make sense. Period. If it makes no sense, then worship it. I should build a shrine to my tax paperwork.
Again I didn't say God doesn't make sense. First line of my post John. ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 20 of 45 (30408)
01-28-2003 2:30 AM
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Reply to: Message 19 by John 01-03-2003 11:12 PM
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The fact that we are limited to a short life span, and an inability to understand anything more than the physical (which we have a minimal grasp on) makes our thinking much below that of God who created everything is eternal and has endless knowledge. We are limited God is not, therefore God's thoughts are above our thoughts. Our inability to comprehend beyond this physical life limits us immensly. How can we judge God's decisions if we cannot see things on the scale that he can? ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 22 of 45 (30463)
01-28-2003 5:04 PM
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Reply to: Message 21 by John 01-28-2003 8:45 AM
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I'm not assuming though John, I'm making an inference based on personal experience. I personally cannot deny God's hand on my life when I look back. It's not a wild unbased assumption, or "blind faith". ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 24 of 45 (30476)
01-28-2003 6:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by John 01-28-2003 5:48 PM
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God has demonstrated to me that he exists, I don't feel I need or even can demonstrate to others that he is there. It's something God does on a personal level. ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 26 of 45 (30879)
01-31-2003 4:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 25 by John 01-30-2003 10:47 AM
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God has proved himself to me, personally. If I was going on an emotion, I would think that my faith would have been destroyed by the criticism on this site alone. I can't pin point exactly how I know that God exists, I just know beyond doubt that he does. Kind of a substanceless answer hey Sorry. ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 42 of 45 (31594)
02-06-2003 9:48 PM
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Reply to: Message 41 by Gzus 02-06-2003 3:34 PM
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You bet. can you stop him? ------------------ Saved by an incredible Grace.
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funkmasterfreaky
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Message 44 of 45 (31672)
02-07-2003 3:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 43 by Gzus 02-07-2003 5:58 AM
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meh
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