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Author Topic:   The next Einstein
nator
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Message 8 of 26 (339661)
08-12-2006 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by notwise
06-28-2005 1:35 PM


Re: moved from PNT by AdminJar
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I would like to hear about what people will think he will be like and the exciting places he will take physics, the problems he will have getting recognized.
I think that she will have no problems getting recognitzion.
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nator
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From: Ann Arbor
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Message 12 of 26 (339756)
08-13-2006 3:26 AM
Reply to: Message 10 by crashfrog
08-12-2006 9:18 PM


Re: moved from PNT by AdminJar
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So apparently you don't think this figure will emerge for about one thousand years?
*sigh*

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nator
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Message 19 of 26 (340501)
08-16-2006 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by mansouryar
08-16-2006 10:07 AM


Re: How about this one?
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Therefore, her position is quite unique in the history of science and that would be a great honor for any lady to be compared with her.
What about a man?

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nator
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Message 20 of 26 (340504)
08-16-2006 12:33 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by mansouryar
08-16-2006 10:24 AM


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With more listing of such people, maybe more women would be motivated to show their capabilities.
Women's reluctance to show their capabilities is not even close to being the largest impediment to their being recognized.

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nator
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Message 22 of 26 (340578)
08-16-2006 5:41 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Son Goku
08-16-2006 2:23 PM


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I've seen intelligent women build up a "ditsy" faade to deal with the social faux pas of being an intelligent woman. This faade then makes it hard for them to be taken seriously in academia.
Being smart, and academically successful and broadcasting it is at times an impediment for women socially, as well.
One of my husband's past female graduate student labmates told him a story about how she and her medical school-attending girlfriends went to a bar popular with students and young professionals one night.
When they told the men who were chatting them up that they were in med school or graduate students in Neuropsychology, they got no phone numbers.
As an experiment, they went back and told the men who chatted them up that they were aerobics instructors, and they got lots and lots of phone numbers.
They didn't act any differently, didn't "dumb down" their conversation or anything, but the men were all scared off by any sign of a strong intellect in a woman.
Pathetic.

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nator
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Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 25 of 26 (341116)
08-18-2006 3:14 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Silent H
08-17-2006 3:54 AM


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Its the jocks that have the women dripping off of them, not the scientists.
Er, a man who is physically attractive and who also is smart, and acheived some kind of outward success like advanced degrees or business acumen, is considered a prime catch.
The women in my example had the same attributes, yet they were rejected for the very same reasons a man would be considered desireable. A doctor or lawyer is still considered my many mothers as the ultimate son in law, so much so that it is a cliche.
The bottom line is, women tend to be attracted to men who achieve because it is considered powerful and masculine.
More than a few men are threatened by intelligent women or women who achieve, feeling that it puts their masculinity at risk.
Maybe you don't realize that this goes on all the time, in both blatant and more subtle ways, because you are a man.
Believe me, no women I have ever spoken to about this has ever failed to tell me a story along the smae lines as the one I related.
quote:
Please note that these brainy females attempted to seek partners at a bar rather than places where more intellectual pursuits were going on. Maybe if they went to scientific, historic, or artistic social functions they'd find guys interested in women who are intellectual.
Er, read my post. The bar was popular with young professionals and other students.
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Believe it or not you can be very smart and very sexual at the same time.
Oh, brother.
I am so glad that you are here, holmes, otherwise I wouldn't have learned that very smart people can be very sexual.
Thank you so much.
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