Intelligent design. Philosophy of ignorance.

You are truly a pompous jerk!! These are scientific facts that cannot be disputed any more than the facts you feed everyone!!! Do us all a favor and keep your comments that are so indignant to yourself. You are a disgrace to the scientific community when you make comments like that

Jar, simply pointed out what is wrong with the so-called "logic" of the video. If you think his statments of fact are wrong or his reasoning is in error all you have to do is point it out in detail.Exactly what "facts" are you refering to?Exactly what comments are a "disgrace" and why?Simply getting insulting to Jar makes it look like you are spluttering with no answer to his points. He may have been hard on the folks who made the video. So? If you think they can be defended we'd be interested in seeing you do so.We are not interested in anyone getting insulting to anyone else here.

The scientific community (or anybody who knows the first thing about science) would point out what is wrong with the comments - instead of throwing a tantrum when somebody disagrees with them.

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No he is not. The probabilities in the Drake equation are not scientific fact but best case guesses given the currently available information and there are a range of guesses. And you are a credit to what community?

Actually I was responding not as much from the science perspective but rather as a Christian. I find it embarrassing that so called Christians are so gullible that con-artists like the ones at Discovery Institute can so easily fool them.You pointed out that you thought "WE couldn't survive."So what? Life went on here on earth for billions of years before man and will likely go on for billions of years after man is gone.You posted: The facts are that the crust does not support the magma, the magma supports the crust.As I said: You asked: As I said, the false premise is that the conditions were designed for the critter while the evidence says that the critters are a result of the conditions.Remember, for a good bit of the history of the earth, the conditions were not suitable for humans. But the conditions were suitable for the critters that lived at that time. As the environment changed, as the filter of Natural Selection changed, different critters passed through and became the critters that suited the environment.The questions and issues I have pointed out should be addressed.Edited by jar, : for some reason I often type one for on

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I point out, for the record, that DivineBegining claimed to be a math major and was challenged to find fault with the the old improbable probability problem in general and Message 35 in particular.and could NOT do so: He has abandoned that thread entirely, given it up, and run-away from the thread and the challenge that it provided him.Now he is asserting this same ignorant fallacious probabilities issue again.It does not matter what the basis is\are for the calculations, they are based on assumptions and not facts. They are a mathematical assumption and cannot be used to invalidate reality: reality exists in spite of mathematical probabilities. Yucatan meteor case in point. This is post hoc ergo propter hoc and the argument from incredulity and nothing more -- logical fallacies.The possibility of something - no matter how small is still more than zero, and the relative possibility compared to an impossibility is that number divided by zero: quite sufficient IIR(my math)C. Amazing it is not. Didn't you talk down to someone about being a "foul-mouthed one" when you started?As a point of information, any "evo" that makes a similar comment about another poster is usually suspended for 24 hours (or more) because this is a violation of forum rules\guidelines. This is an ad hominem attack on the messenger and not on the message. Creationists are cut some slack by the administration: I hope you enjoy being "privileged", but don't abuse it (it's so hard to play the matryred christian afterwards).Enjoy.Edited by RAZD, : posthocergopropterhoc

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Jar has been giving me backhanded insults from the beginning of the thread. He thinks he is above everyone that disagrees with him. He says he's a Christian? A christian means "Christ like". What does Christ think of the idea of His Father not creating the universe?

I know, and I have pointed out what was wrong with several arguments from you guys, but all I get back is that I am an utter fool. So, I say he got what he deserved

Life went on here on earth for billions of years before man and will likely go on for billions of years after man is gone.Can you prove this?The facts are that the crust does not support the magma, the magma supports the crust.Are you that ignorant? They are talking about the crust being thick enough to support the rising energy from the molten magma.

This is post hoc ergo propter hocCould you just use plain english here?I hope you enjoy being "privileged", but don't abuse it (it's so hard to play the matryred christian afterwards).Whatever.

If you want to point those insults out I'll have a read over them.All I saw was Jar giving your reasonable critisms of the material you refered to. I've read over the dvd transcipt too and it appears that he is correct.I have missed any place where you have actually dealt with those critisms.If you do not wish to conduct yourself in a manner appropriate to the science forums you will not be posting at all.

All right. OK. I will refrain myself. But I will have it be known that Jar is quite condescending with his remarks to me. The words he uses to describe what I bring up are pretty mean. I guess I will just have to ignore him. I have dealt with worse.

Divine beginning, before you get into it deeper look: Earth's InteriorAs you can see the crust is the outer layerEdited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.Edited by alacrity fitzhugh, : No reason given.

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Thanks, I didn't know that!!! Seriously, thank you. You said that very nicely. I appreciate that.

to which DivineBeginning replied: In science nothing is proven, but the evidence is so overwhelming that it can be said to be proven in general conversation. The earliest pre-Cambrian life forms found so far date to around 3.5 Billions of years ago. Plus, every year there are new discoveries that push that date back even further.As to life existing long after man is gone, as I said, it is likely. All the evidence so far says that the wondrous process of Evolution that GOD created will assure that life goes on. to which Divine Beginnings replied: Sorry but again, your response makes no sense. There are many places where the rising energy from the molten magma breaks through the surface. Some good examples are Black and White Smokers found along the mid ocean rifts.And guess what we find there? Life. Lots of life. Wondrous life.Another place where we see the energy from the molten magma breaking through the surface is in the Hot Springs, particularly in Yellowstone.And guess what we find there? Life. Lots of life. Wondrous life.

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