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Author Topic:   What is Salty's 'semi-meiotic hypothesis'
derwood
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Message 5 of 63 (37393)
04-20-2003 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by NosyNed
04-19-2003 7:37 PM


Re: semi-meiosis
Yes - I shouldn't have thought that cut-and-paste would be so difficult...

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derwood
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Message 11 of 63 (37542)
04-22-2003 9:38 AM


In a nutshell...
Since the espouser of the semi-meiotic hypothesis - for which there is not one scintilla of evidenciary support - will not answer simple, direct questions, I will sum it up.
Meiosis - the generation of mature haploid gametes - is a two step process.
Davison claims that the mechanism of speciation is the production of a viable, new species - that is, an individual- via the interruption of normal meiosis such that a new individual (hopeful monster) is produced asexually from a non-fertilized mutatnt gamete. Ovum, that is. Prior to Meiosis II.
There is no evidence for this, mind you, but it is in line with the musings of folks that last published scientific papers in the 1970s (at the most recent).
Implicit in this are standard creationist/IDist canards, such as "the information was already there". One should wonder why, if salty's heroes were so 'correct', why then are THEIR names not household names? "Darwinist conspiracy" won't work. Non-Darwinian (I won't say anti-Darwinist, because that is not an accurate moniker) Kimura's work gained acceptence whern he presented evidence that his views had merit.
And I submit that is the real issue here.
[This message has been edited by SLPx, 04-22-2003]

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derwood
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Message 16 of 63 (37565)
04-22-2003 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by John A. Davison
04-22-2003 11:32 AM


Re: In a nutshell...
quote:
Davison:
Scott, you are largely correct
Thank you for negating the usual mantra about everyone not understanding or not reading your essays.

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derwood
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Message 51 of 63 (37827)
04-24-2003 10:44 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by John A. Davison
04-23-2003 8:39 PM


Re: In a nutshell...
quote:
I am constantly being accused of making unfounded assertions.
That is because that is what you do. That and this hero worship. And a reliance upon out of date material.
quote:
What are you and Scott Page doing I wonder.
In this particular thread, I am pointing out that you rely upon outdated material to draw your erroneous and purely speculative conclusions. I am pointing out how little you seem to understand about how evolution operates. etc.
quote:
The simple truth is that no one understands evolution, not me, not you, not Scott Page...
Please do not speak for me, JA 'salty' Davison.

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derwood
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Message 52 of 63 (37828)
04-24-2003 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by John A. Davison
04-23-2003 8:39 PM


truly incredible...
quote:
Davison:
Sexual reproduction has never been demonstrated as a macroevolutionary mechanism. In my view it never will be.
There has got to be a clinical description of this sort of denial...

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derwood
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Message 62 of 63 (38019)
04-25-2003 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 60 by Mammuthus
04-25-2003 8:33 AM


Re: truly incredible...
quote:
JA" I never said that!" Davisdon:
I'm still game to take on the opposition. Anytime - anyplace
One has to wonder if this is so, why did it take so long to get him to finally answer ONE question with something other than hero worship, repeated assertion, or reference to his essays?
[This message has been edited by SLPx, 04-25-2003]

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