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Message 60 of 140 (379834)
01-25-2007 3:24 PM
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01-25-2007 1:01 PM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
We can only thank God that he gave George the wisdom to side with Israel.
... as Israel follows through on its policy of withdrawing from settlements and working toward a two-state solution?
Lebanons willful violation of Oslo its obvious it should be returned to Israel. George Bush Sr. , Clinton, and George W. Bush was about peace for land. Would it not be better for the whole world if we just left Gods land to Sarah's son. The muslims are not the sons of the free woman and are not the heirs to Gods land. The Lords portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
The muslims are liars because they willfully defied their portion of Oslo agreement from its very beginnings. The United Nations too were willfully ignorant and its simply time to reject the Oslo Peace agreement.
Will the muslims give back this land, or will they bring on the wrath of God, etc...
KJV Deuteronomy 32:9: For the LORD's portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance.
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Whither Israel: After Lebanon And Gaza? Finally, Time To Reject A Suicidal 'Peace Process'
Incontestably the PA/PLO ’ and now especially Hamas ’ are guilty of multiple material breaches of the basic Oslo Accords.
In ordering the recent IDF operations in Gaza and Lebanon, Prime Minister Olmert has understood the need to act correctly and heroically. Let him now understand that the so-called Peace Process was never anything more than an Arab/Islamic Trojan Horse, and that Israel's survival will never be delivered as a gift.
http://www.tzemachmusic.com/fyi/docs/beres/20060927.htm
Perhaps the problem is the idols from Asia that have permeated into our country since the 1960's. Is Taiwanians bringing judgment on America by all the new age religions that come from Asia.
Like Methodism?
No, I was thinking like Buddhism, Taoism, Bahaism, Islam, Tienlichiao (from Japan), folk dieties, among others,etc...
Taiwan's Religion
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Message 62 of 140 (379888)
01-25-2007 6:38 PM
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01-25-2007 4:20 PM


Re: Gods fury/ Placing blame
How do you know that God has not lessened the force of some of these quakes, cyclones, in respect to Taiwan. When Katrina smashed into New Orleans (gay abominators fled) it turned and spared New Orleans the full wrath of Katrina.
If your Christian God is so eager to write a blank check to Israel on religious grounds, Taiwan should get by without even asking.
Israel was not given a blank check, its only since 1948 that they have been a nation in Israel. God gave his word to Sarahs seed its all about the mercy of God to the whole World.
If God judged Israel his own inheritance how can any nation expect a blank check in respect to Gods judgment including the USA and Taiwan.
Jesus said in respect to prayer to the Father to pray not to be led into temptation and pray to be delivered from evil. I'm sure you have prayer warriors in your country as in ours, but the word says the wicked will not be acqwitted.
Were moving forward in the last days hopefully you and yours will be raptured before the big earthquake bowls of wrath, in respect to Taiwan, Hawaii and all the islands fled away, etc... kjv rev 16:20
kjv nahum 1:3 The LORD is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the LORD hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
kjv nahum 1:5 The mountains quake at him, and thee hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all tha tdwell therein.
kjv nahum 1:6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.
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Message 64 of 140 (379898)
01-25-2007 7:02 PM
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01-25-2007 6:43 PM


Re: Gods fury and Earthquakes
If God wanted to protect Israel i think he has more resources at hand than the favorable support of the US - dontcha think?
kjv zechariah 14:1 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken
kjv zechariah 14:3 Then shall the Lord go forth and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
kjv zechariah 14: But it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem;
kjv zechariah 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
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Message 66 of 140 (379967)
01-25-2007 10:53 PM
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01-25-2007 9:24 PM


Re: Gods fury and Earthquakes
Still no comment on why earthquakes center around subduction zones and fault lines eh?
If you check the strongs concordance "divers places" can mean distribution or intensity along coastlines. So we have a confirmation of scripture near fault lines, subduction is an incorrect word choice for the trench areas.
There is no evidence the plates are presently subducting under the trenches which is why the area is so unstable. You might check out Walt Browns hydroplate theory for a better understanding whats happening under the trenches along the coastlines.
kjv Mark 13:8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom and there shall be earthquakes in divers places and there shall be famines and troubles; these are the beginnings of sorrows.
Is god not capable of making an earthquake anywhere he please or not?
I agree and he has and he will again (the big one) but the Word appears to be saying that they will primarily be intensified along the coastlines.
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Message 76 of 140 (380026)
01-26-2007 6:15 AM
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01-26-2007 4:04 AM


Re: Gods fault lines
God's sparing us the earthquakes cause we legalized same-sex marriage. God loves the legal man-on-man action.
Gays put the bullseye on New Orleans, it was bearing directly for full destruction of New Orleans. However when the gays convening on New Orleans fled, Katrina turned a bit otherwise all in New Orleans would of perished.
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Message 77 of 140 (380027)
01-26-2007 6:24 AM
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01-25-2007 11:52 PM


Re: Gods fault lines
Well look at Russia... the godless communist are almost free of earthquakes - maybe they don't have "divers places"
Russia prophecy has God setting the hook and pulling them down to attack Israel. kjv Ezekiel 38:4
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"... Art thou come to take a spoil? ..." (Ezekiel 38:8-13 KJV)
Ezekiel chapters 38-39 prophesy that several Arab and North African nations will rally together in the Latter Years and mount a massive military operation against the Nation of Israel. Despite the fall of the Berlin Wall and the "collapse" of communism, Ezekiel prophesies that a "hook in the jaw" will be placed in Russia's mouth and she will be dragged into this war virtually against her will. It will not be her smartest move. It will be the end of her armed forces.
As with most of Bible Prophecy, Ezekiel's prophetic language is symbolic, requiring an enlightened view of all Scripture. Therefore, we must carefully examine the prophetical books of the Bible and compare them with other Scripture. Prophetical books are not meant just for "filler" material ... they are intended to guide generations by revealing the future *before* it occurs. All of Bible prophecy will be fulfilled. The only question is when?
Ezekiel 39:1-8 The next prophecy of Ezekiel is delivered against Russia predicting that less than 17% of her armies will survive the vengeance of God. Also, an unknown "fire" (volcanic earthquake or nuclear war?) shall descend upon the land of Magog and others. Israel shall worship God for delivering her:
Ezekiel 39:9-16 After Russia's devastating defeat, Israel cleanses their land by burning the weapons that were intended for use against her. The bodies of the attacking armies will be buried, in the place where they fell, over a seven-month period:
Ezekiel 39:17-20 Before the bodies are completely buried by Israel, predatory birds and wild animals enjoy a human buffet as they dine on the fallen warriors of the Gog-Magog war (yuck!):
Ezekiel 39:21-29 The final outcome of this event is that God receives glory from Israel and others:
Gog Magog War of Ezekiel 38

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Message 78 of 140 (380029)
01-26-2007 6:33 AM
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01-25-2007 11:47 PM


Re: Gods fury and Earthquakes
I agree but the Word appears to be saying that they will primarily be intensified along the coastlines.
No it does not. As is usually the case the literalist are not literal.
I used the strongs concordance online e-sword. If you put these two words together it can imply primarily intensified along the coast.
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Message 81 of 140 (380040)
01-26-2007 8:03 AM
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01-26-2007 6:41 AM


Re: Gods fault lines
Concerning these prehistorical hurricanes what was god purpose - target practice?
No God doesn't need target practice. The devil however its said is come to the earth and is quite irate because he knows his time is short, it says Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea. The dragon is wroth with the woman and is making war with the remnant of her seed those which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ. kjv rev 12:12-17
How about thunderstorms? do they have spiritual and prophetic significance? sun spots? aurora borealis, floods, sink holes, a tree falling in the forest?
Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
After the biblical flood the topography rose and this is what believed to cause wind patterns of thunderstorms today.
The sun heating up (sun spots) melting the polar caps is whats causing the water vapor to cause global warming. The amount of methane that is being released dwarfs any amount of Co2 released by man which is good for the environment. Co2 drives the environment food, oxygen for the next millinium reign of Christ.
After the tribulation bowls of wrath the mountains will be leveled, islands no more rev 16:20, which will affect how the earth rain falls.
In the millenium reign of Christ if nations will not honor the LORD the Lord will deny them rain zechariah 14:17 and that there will be peace during the millienium reign of Christ. The weapons will be turned into plowshares Isaiah 2:4, etc...
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Message 82 of 140 (380041)
01-26-2007 8:08 AM
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01-26-2007 8:00 AM


Re: Gods fault lines
This is getting surreal. If I didn't need therapy before this thread, I certainly will by the 300 mark.
I'd recommend Jerry Falwells bible correspondence course its offered by Liberty University.
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Message 84 of 140 (380047)
01-26-2007 8:17 AM
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01-26-2007 8:11 AM


Re: Gods fault lines
charley writes:
After the biblical flood the topography rose and this is what believed to cause wind patterns of thunderstorms today.
Who believes this? Topography causes thunderstorms? I don't think so.
Why are not thunderstorms common in the Sarah desert, and other deserts of the world. What affects only certain parts of the earth to recieve rain and other not. Is not topography affecting the path of the thunderstorms, if not then whats preventing the deserts from recieving rain, etc....
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Message 88 of 140 (380127)
01-26-2007 12:49 PM
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01-26-2007 8:27 AM


Re: Gods fault lines
The sun heating up (sun spots)
Sun spots are cooler than the surrounding temperature not hotter. Sunspots occur about every 10-12 years following the reversal of the polar fields. This is a normal pattern, and I think you will have some trouble showing this is the cause of global warming.
I'm not talking about sun spots 10-12 year cycle but about why the earth has been heating up for most of the last century. As the sun heats up it releases more CO2 from the oceans water also releasing CO2 from methane beneath the polar ice melting. You can not equate global warming to greenhouse gases because its only a small percentage when compared to water vapor caused by the sun heating up for over the last century. If the sun was shining for over 13,000 years one would wonder how come Titan still has a water canopy that has not all disapated to space or was not captured by Saturns magnetosphere.
However before the biblical flood the earth had a water canopy perhaps much like the one of Titan that shielded the earth.
Our Water canopy was depleted when the fountains of the deep opened up the atmosphere causing this layer to beable to contribute to the flood because the atmosphere was rolled back. The windows of heaven were opened no atmosphere to heat up the water vapor from the canopy above from cooling the earth. This is the logical expression of how quickly our glaciers formed.
When the windows of heaven were closed most of this water vapor had already been returned to the earth which is why we now only have the ozone layer protecting us from the suns solar radiation.
In the 1990's they banned freon and other particulates emissions from factories because they were concerned about global cooling. Perhaps we should increase coal emissions not cut them, etc...If this global cooling was the reason for banning particles emissions should not we rescind the EPA particle emissions standards or at least lower them a bit so to help the ozone layer reflect some more of the suns radiation. Was not this the reason for the EPA particle emission standards to not reflect the sun because of the scientists telling us to fear global cooling.
Perhaps they knew all along that we were not going into global cooling. The common man knew it was all bogus, surely they too were not ignorant "Or" is there something else the scientists have forgotten willfully to tell us.
When I younger I thought I would educate my Dad. He explained the scientists were scamming us that it was global warming not global cooling because when he was a kid the snow rose above the telephone poles.
The link below confirms scientifically that my Dad was right and the scientists were all wet, biased lot that they be. Brain washed perhaps that they actually believed we were deep into global cooling in the 1990's. How quickly we forget the bs of what was told as is when it clearly was not global cooling.
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The results, detailed in this week's issue of the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics Letters, "confirm that there was indeed an increase in solar activity over the last 100 years or so," Usoskin told SPACE.com.
Sun's Activity Increased in Past Century, Study Confirms | Space
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Message 92 of 140 (380179)
01-26-2007 3:39 PM
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01-26-2007 1:13 PM


Re: Gods fault lines
In the 1990's they banned freon and other particulates emissions from factories because they were concerned about global cooling.
Tell me again what planet you're writing from?
I think the problem is they simply have used our fossil fuel as a fall guy one way or the other, etc...
Enjoy !!!
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NEWSWEEK published a small back-page article about a very different kind of disaster. Citing “ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically,” the magazine warned of an impending “drastic decline in food production.” Political disruptions stemming from food shortages could affect “just about every nation on earth.” Scientists urged governments to consider emergency action to head off the terrible threat of global cooling.
In the mid-1970s, scientists were focusing on an increase of dust and “aerosols” (suspended droplets of liquid, mostly sulfuric acid) in the atmosphere. These, the result of increased agriculture and burning of coal in power plants, lower the Earth’s temperature by reflecting sunlight back into space.
Seems to me that if it’s not one thing it’s another. Either we are doomed to freeze to death at our own hand, or we’re doomed to melt. Wouldn’t a balance of both keep us from getting too hot or too cold? (honest question)
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Chuck Tatum of North Augusta, SC, comments:
Having worked in a Weather Center since 1989, I do not believe that there is global warming. I know that many of the statistics come from sloppy scientists whose instruments are not calibrated every 6 months by skilled electronics technicians - as ours are.
Rev. Merwin R. Joy of San Cheboygan, MI, comments:
I just heard the facts are in. The earth has increased 1 degree over the last 100 years. That's global warming?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/forum/december97/protocol8.html

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Message 93 of 140 (380181)
01-26-2007 3:52 PM
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01-26-2007 1:18 PM


Re: Gods fault lines
And it's real nice of this God fella to let his GF Katrina kill pretty much the old, poor, and infirm when he was targeting the healthy and homosexual.
If the gays coming out of the closets wouldn't of turned tail Katrina might well of been a direct hit. Though it really was about land for Peace the gays just made an interesting target.
Hopefully New Orleans has learned their lesson because well can New Orleans substain another near direct hit. It was a pretty big spanking hopefully George W Bush will not force Israel hand and the gays will stay in their closets.
New Orleans can not take another near direct hit, perhap we really should not rebuild as its built on sinking sand.
kjv Matthew 7:26 And every one that heareth these saying of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
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Edited by Charley, : Added Words of the Lord in Matthews gospel in respect to the foolishness of building on sand much however how much more foolish to be rebuilding on sinking sand, etc...

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Message 94 of 140 (380304)
01-26-2007 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by DrJones*
01-26-2007 2:56 PM


Re: Gods fault lines
Gays put the bullseye on New Orleans
Sodom and Gormorrah the men young and old and Lots guests, they wanted nothing to do with Lots daughters. The angels were sent to destroy it. There may of been more to its destruction than just the gays like New Orleans but interestingly the gays played a part in its destruction.
kjv genesis 19:13 for we will destroy this place because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.
And yet God has spared Canada from horrible natural disasters since we legalized same sex marriage, not a single hurricane up here. So clearly God wants the gays to marry.
To the LORD belongeth veneance and recompence, perhaps the things that shall come upon them that make haste. kjv deuteronomy 32:34. Aids, sexual diseases, etc...?
What treasures is the Lord God talking about in respect to verse 32:34 if not sexual diseases. Personally I think this how God is dealing with sodomites and heterosexual out of marriage relationships and not just in Canada.
It says he will be merciful unto the land, thus it appears the judgment is more in respect to his treasures that might well be all them sexual transmitted diseases. That their foot shall slide in due time, it makes haste, etc...
kjv deuteronomy 32:43 It says to rejoice "ye nations" with his people for he will avenge the blood of his servants. and willl render vengeance to his adversaries, and "will be merciful unto his land", and "to his people".
kjv deuteronomy 32:33 Their wine is the wine of dragons and the cruel venom of asps.
kjv deuteronomy 32:34 Is not this laid up in store with me, and sealed up among my treasures?
kjv deuteronomy 32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

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Message 97 of 140 (380431)
01-27-2007 10:41 AM
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Re: Gods fault lines
so you agree that God loves Canada and wants the gays to marry
I couldn't find any verse in the bible that supports gay marriage.
Sorry,
Charley

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